OT = good vibes if you have some extra

nothing major i can pinpoint and say "this is it".

i took a test yesterday for a new job. a TEST. to be a RECEPTIONIST. if that wasn't humbling enough, 90 PEOPLE took the test. and i'm still not sure how i DID! the tests will be scored by Monday or Tuesday, and then they will start calling for interviews. ridiculous as it sounds, i could really use this job. for the health benefits and retirement, if nothing else. i'm just hoping i can handle it at this point! at least my evenings and weekend would be free to do what *I* want/need for a change.

i've spent the last two evenings shopping. for tools. i now have added to my workbench the "holder" for the Dremel, so i can use it "freehand". [family has been given the list of attachments for Christmas.] cutters. drill bits. [and i'm finally learning to use it for something besides twisting wire!]

i have a soldering iron and silver solder. do i know how to use it? no. but i really, really need to learn. so i'm working on that.

and i have a recommendation/suggestion to a local Native American artist who MIGHT be able to teach me some of the "silversmithing" things i am getting desperate to learn but am unable to find a teacher for. i'll go looking for him tomorrow.

and furniture stripper.

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can take out my frustration on green paint and at least see someresults, maybe! i still need to find a real venue for my work.

and it's all getting to me.

i'll be heading out on Tuesday night for Las Vegas and taking much of my work with me, even tho the trip itself is totally unrelated to jewelry.

i could really use something out of the list going right for a change! so if you have any vibes to spare, please send them my way!

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Vicki, be sure the soldering iron is hot enough to solder silver. In silversmithing classes they only use torches.

Tina

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :

]Vicki, be sure the soldering iron is hot enough to solder silver. In ]silversmithing classes they only use torches.

how hot IS hot enough?

this says 750 degrees . . .

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.compuppies (Dr. Sooz) :

]>i could really use something out of the list going right for a change! ]>so if you have any vibes to spare, please send them my way! ] ]TOTALLY, dude!

thank you, doll!

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I've heard people here say they've used soldering irons, but the melting temp for silver is 1640 F. Melting oint for easiest solder is 1270, hard solder is 1425F.

Tina

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((job vibes)))

good luck!

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What the h--- kind of test is it?? That is interesting. Good luck. I want you do have good things happen in your life, so if this is a good palce and will be right for you, I want it to happen for you.

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You got 'em Vicki!

Carol in SLC New auctions:

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Silver solder melts at a temperature much too high for a soldering iron to be of any value. Go buy a propane torch at your local Home Depot (or the like). Most likely found in the plumbing section. Then buy the book "The Complete Metalsmith" by Tim McCreight (sp?). You will then have everything you need to start teaching yourself silversmithing. Go for it. I did. Look where it got me. Oh, and when you find where that is, let me know, OK. I'm lost......... Barbara Dream Master

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :

]I've heard people here say they've used soldering irons, but the melting ]temp for silver is 1640 F. Melting oint for easiest solder is 1270, hard ]solder is 1425F.

!$!@%#%!@$@%@$!~

thanks, Tina!

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Barbara Forbes-Lyons" :

]((job vibes))) ] ]good luck!

thank you!

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "mkahogan" :

]What the h--- kind of test is it??

reading comprehension. grammar. spelling. punctuation. for a secretary, i could understand it. but a receptionist? i guess they have to have SOME way to weed people out.

]That is interesting. ]Good luck. I want you do have good things happen in your life, so if this ]is a good palce and will be right for you, I want it to happen for you.

thanks!

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.comnospam (Carol in SLC) :

]You got 'em Vicki!

thank you, sweetheart!

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Barbara Otterson :

] Silver solder melts at a temperature much too high ]for a soldering iron to be of any value.

okay. **sigh** i don't doubt you, or Tina. but then what is the stuff sold in the hardware store as "silver solder"?

]Go buy a propane ]torch at your local Home Depot (or the like). Most likely ]found in the plumbing section. Then buy the book ]"The Complete Metalsmith" by Tim McCreight (sp?). ]You will then have everything you need to start teaching ]yourself silversmithing.

i looked at the torches [DH said he'd never seen MAPP gas until i started doing jewelry and talking about beads!] but how on earth do you do FINE work with something that BIG?

all i'm looking to do, at this point is "joining wires". and not to disagree with you, but in this instance, books don't work for me very well. i need someone to SHOW me, and stand behind me and correct mistakes until i get the hang of it, if that makes sense?

] Go for it. I did. Look where it got me. Oh, and when ]you find where that is, let me know, OK. I'm lost.........

LOL! you got it!

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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:02:15 -0400, vj wrote (in message ):

Not at all a good sign. Sounds like they want the receptionist to do a secretary's work at receptionist wages. While answering the phones and greeting people at the same time. If they call you back, make sure they spell out the job duties in great detail, and even then, don't be surprised.

It's a rotten way of doing business, but a lot of companies think that the receptionist is also a backup secretary. Except the "help us out just this once" stuff always ends up being permanent.

Kathy N-V

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Wow - sounds kind of like the tests they give at temp services to determine what skills you have. I'll bet you did really great, though. I hope you get the job!

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V :

]Not at all a good sign. Sounds like they want the receptionist to do a ]secretary's work at receptionist wages. While answering the phones and ]greeting people at the same time. If they call you back, make sure they ]spell out the job duties in great detail, and even then, don't be surprised.

it's possible. it's the county court.

]It's a rotten way of doing business, but a lot of companies think that the ]receptionist is also a backup secretary. Except the "help us out just this ]once" stuff always ends up being permanent.

no kidding! BT, DT [the woman who has the job i used to do is now an "administrative assistant" and i know her - she barely knows how to turn a computer ON - let alone do half of what i did!]

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Kandice Seeber" :

]Wow - sounds kind of like the tests they give at temp services to determine ]what skills you have. I'll bet you did really great, though. I hope you ]get the job!

thanks, doll. but there are still interviews, etc, to do. and those other 90 people.

i thought "receptionist" wouldn't have as much stress. i'm beginning to wonder!

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To most people "joining wires" is something you do for electricity. For that a soldering iron and "silver solder" from the hardware store is adequate. For jewelry it's a whole different material.

And again, Tim McCreight's "The Complete Metalsmith" is something you will want as the single best reference book. As far as real "how to" goes, I personally think nothing short of taking a class is the way to go. Though if you know someone who does plumbing, learning to "sweat a pipe" would be a good start for understanding soldering.

Tina

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from "Christina Peterson" :

]To most people "joining wires" is something you do for electricity. For ]that a soldering iron and "silver solder" from the hardware store is ]adequate. For jewelry it's a whole different material.

well, i did tell him i wanted to solder together silver wires, but he was young and having a hard time with the "jewelry in the hardware store component".

]And again, Tim McCreight's "The Complete Metalsmith" is something you will ]want as the single best reference book. As far as real "how to" goes, I ]personally think nothing short of taking a class is the way to go. Though ]if you know someone who does plumbing, learning to "sweat a pipe" would be a ]good start for understanding soldering.

the book is definitely on my list. and Tina, i have tried and tried and tried to find a class. i can't come up with one! i've tried both colleges and they think i'm crazy. that's why i was looking for a silversmith in the area!

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