OT rant about web building

First, I'll warn you that I am one of "them". My real world job is Network Security.

I understand your frustration. I've worked with many people in your situation.

There could be a a variety of reasons why they don't want to publish the information. The argument that "it is available elsewhere on the internet" is not a valid argument. You are assuming the publishers of the data did so responsibly. Unfortunately, this is not always the case.

You did not indicate the type of organization (government, educational, commercial, etc). There are liabilities and laws that regulate the type of data each organization can share and the methods in which the data may be shared. This is why it is important to bring the network security group in during the early phase of a project, even if you think they don't have an interest in it. If they have no interest, they'll sign off and you won't have any unexpected blocks. If there are security concerns, don't tell them what you "want" to do, explain to them the problem you are trying to solve and let them offer a solution. They understand the risks and exposures better than you, and will be able to determine the safest methods. Be willing to compromise.

In this particular case, you really should have consulted them before you signed the contract. (file that under Lessons Learned) I certainly would not get a publicly hosted web site to intentionally bypass your companies security policies. However, you could discuss the option with your security people. Employees in my company have done this and in some cases, it proved to be the safest solution to achieve their goals. This would be one step toward restoring your work relationship with the computer purchaser. Just remember.. tell them you problem and let them solve it. You can make suggestions, but don't make demands and don't get emotional (no Chicken Little). All geeks like being heroes. Don't be afraid to let them feel like they are. (as corny as that sounds). :-)

One last word, you should understand that your security people are not trying to prevent you from doing your work, their goal is to protect you, your network and your data. This is not always an easy roll.

-m.

(I apologize if this is a duplicate post. I had problems during the posting and had to make a second attempt)

First, I'll warn you that I am one of "them". My real world job is Network Security.

I understand your frustration. I've worked with many people in your situation.

There could be a a variety of reasons why they don't want to publish the information. The argument that "it is available elsewhere on the internet" is not a valid argument. You are assuming the publishers of the data did so responsibly. Unfortunately, this is not always the case.

You did not indicate the type of organization (government, educational, commercial, etc). There are liabilities and laws that regulate the type of data each organization can share and the methods in which the data may be shared. This is why it is important to bring the network security group in during the early phase of a project, even if you think they don't have an interest in it. If they have no interest, they'll sign off and you won't have any unexpected blocks. If there are security concerns, don't tell them what you "want" to do, explain to them the problem you are trying to solve and let them offer a solution. They understand the risks and exposures better than you, and will be able to determine the safest methods. Be willing to compromise.

In this particular case, you really should have consulted them before you signed the contract. (file that under Lessons Learned) I certainly would not get a publicly hosted web site to intentionally bypass your companies security policies. However, you could discuss the option with your security people. Employees in my company have done this and in some cases, it proved to be the safest solution to achieve their goals. This would be one step toward restoring your work relationship with the computer purchaser. Just remember.. tell them you problem and let them solve it. You can make suggestions, but don't make demands and don't get emotional (no Chicken Little). All geeks like being heroes. Don't be afraid to let them feel like they are. (as corny as that sounds). :-)

One last word, you should understand that your security people are not trying to prevent you from doing your work, their goal is to protect you, your network and your data. This is not always an easy roll.

-m.

Army Soldier Show, I work for MWR. It's a common contract, and if you look at the Soldier Show website on MWR, you will find everything I posted on the web. It's under Media Kit.

If you follow the schedule and search for MWR at each show date, you will find that each one has posted the links, as required in the contract. The sponsors have to be linked 30 days prior and for a total of 90 days on the internet in order for us to receive our sponsorship money, which helps pay for the venue. We aren't big enough to have our own theater like some posts.

Here are some of their sites:

This is only a partial list, but you get the point. Still, there isn't any information being posted that isn't already posted by our FMWR Command. I did finally get it uploaded about 3:00 this afternoon, after much frustration and many interruptions.

Soon enough I'll create a permanent website and it will present our full organization, but this information had to be up today, not on the 16th, or whenever they felt like getting around to it.

What errors did you encounter when trying to publish the pages? Were they .pub or .htm files?

Publisher is really meant for print publications, not web pages. If possible, transfer it to Frontpage and try it again. Alternately, see if you new webhost supports PHP and mySQL and use a program like Wordpress to create a blog about the event, with static pages for the static content.

Barbara

Bead & Polymer Clay Habitué

There is a very fine line between a hobby and mental illness. (Dave Barry)

As part of my job and part of a contract, we had to publish certain

It's up.

I'll change it to a permanent site soon, but for now we just needed the soldier information up this week.