Pricing worry

Words and definitions! I think we're are real close to exactly agreeing.

In retail,"key" was considered standard. That is, I priced things twice I pay for it (including freight, etc). That seems to be the main difference in formula.

What I figure is wholesale is retail cost of material plus the time it would take a skilled artist x the rate a skilled artist would take to make it. After all, being slow doesn't justify making someone pay more. And cost of materials times two is way too little if it's a price you can't get again, and way too much if you paid too much for it in the first place. So guess my wholesale is figured a little higher.

Then since retail is twice wholesale, direct should be some place in between -- like 2/3 or 3/4 of wholesale.

Actually, it sounds like your formulas would be more applicable to buying and reselling, than to making things.

Tina

I found nothing wrong with what Sooz said either, and it was directed at myself. On Usenet things can come over in a way they often weren't meant to (I learn that a few years ago when I first got the internet). I've rethought my pricing, I've done the sums and I'm going to have a chat with my nice local jeweller to see what he believes the market round here will support - after all, it's not the same everywhere. Now, I'm not saying I'm not taking all the wonderful advice from people on board. I am. I have. I will continue to because you're all such nice people and have very intelligent things to say, unlike many. But I want to primarily sell face to face, with the internet for a back up, so when people like a piece in the street, I can say "here's my business card, you can buy it from my website or give me a call." The web being as it is, I can't stop someone ordering it from Ibiza if they want it, and yes, it may be cheaper than where they are. But I cannot have one price on my website, and one price that I give to people I meet - that just sounds like a sure fire way to dig myself into the shit.

Charlie.

(I'll watch out for those letter bombs... *tiptoes away and hides behind the sofa* =D)

Is that a compliment?

Tina

"Dr. Sooz" wrote

Oh, that's not at all what you wrote. You wrote ,and you quoted : "See, it's all *your* fault that the other artists are starving!" I merely asked where you were reading that quote. Do you see why people have trouble with your posts? Sooz's post was misquoted by you, your reply was all about you and your wants, and you still haven't been able to show me the quote that you posted.

It might be. I love my Mom but the world only needs one of her! :-)

Kathy N-V

Which is precisely what the original boiled down to. I don't see why you find that so difficult to grasp.

Say WHAT? Where the hell are you coming up with that bullshit?

It's not *my* fault if you don't understand the difference between an illustrative paraphrase and a direct quote. From what I've seen of your other posts, that's not all you don't understand, either. And I think I'm tired of trying to explain things to someone who appears to be deliberately obtuse.

Celine

This keeps coming up, and it just boggles me. When you post something on a newsgroup for public discussion, that's what you get. Like you've never dropped into a conversation between two other posters, sheesh!

Celine

oh please. anyone who thinks, and that would be you Celine, that she has a grasp of English, grammar or writing skills, would know that a quote is a quote, it is not your interpretation of a quote. I know you think you know everything about everything, but the more i read your posts, and this wil lbe the last, the more your ignorance and self centeredness shows.

H*lls teeth!

My DH gets mis-interpreted ALL the time! A lot of it is the other persons perception - not the intention of the person saying it!! I know this from personally living with someone who is very definite about his opinions.. but he means well.. Only wants people to listen & think about what he says.. gee, they might even get something out of it, who knows? But it is up to them.. And Charlie did ask for opinion.. Opinion he/she got.. Bl**dy H*ll!!!!!!!!!

Mavis

Oh, wow. Celine - with all due respect, why do you feel the need to reprimand Sooz for her post giving advice to someone who asked for that advice? I just don't get that. You point blank asked Sooz to change the way she posts things, because *you* didn't like it. And then later you go and post a combative thing like this. Your paraphrasing is how you see things, not how things look to everyone. Charlie herself was reacting to the advice in a mature fashion, and actually listening to what Sooz and others were saying. It's okay for you to express how you feel in a combative way, but not okay for Sooz to give advice when it's asked for? I don't understand that, but, well, I don't understand a lot of things.

This is very important. You DO have to be consistant in your pricing. It gets even more complicated if you sell to a shop, because then you're obligated not to undercut them. And I believe eBay also requires that you don't undercut your prices.

It seems to me that some artists work around this by selling full price (retail) on their sites, and opening bids some percent over wholesale oneBay, but then offering wholesale or discounts for large sales ($200? $500?)

Tina

"Charlie" wrote

I glanced at the this thread when it was sent. It didn't apply to me so I've been deleting the responses. Well, it's been going on for some time so I peeked in (topics often shift). OH MY!

I went back thru to see where all of this negativity started and I just don't get it. I think Sooz offered some realistic advice to Charlie. And Charlie hershelf seemed to understand - SO WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

Ladies (and gentlemen, if applicable), it's time to let it rest. Please? Isn't there enough anger in this world without bickering over one's perception of a response?

Peace,

try typing Rodney in a document and then spell check it. It comes up Rodent. I didn't know that til my Auntie wrote and told me. It was hard not to call him Rodent. LOL

We have now reached the official "...and 347 other NG denizens to implore for peace" stage of the thread! Yay!

;)

-Kalera

JL Amers> I glanced at the this thread when it was sent. It didn't apply to me so I've

Yer funny!

-Kalera

Christ> Is that a compliment?

Oh, Charlie, this is way too low. Normally, you would double the materials (which is already considered wholesale markup) and then add the labor per hour and shipping. Paypal costs are considered overhead, so shouldn't be computed. If you give yourself a good markup, that covers the overhead expenses.