Semi-OT: Waaaah - My baby's leaving me!

My little pork chop has only five days left with me before she sets out into the big wide world without her Mama. Her new passport arrived yesterday, and we spent a little bit comparing this new one to the ones she's had since babyhood. At 13, this is her last "child" passport. The next one will be good for ten years, starting when she is eighteen.

Looking at the baby passport, DD commented that she used to have "squinty" eyes. I laughed and told her that her eyes never squinted, it was her chubby baby cheeks, which she found appalling. The young child passport was better, but DD had just grown her adult teeth, which gave her a bit of a bunny rabbit look. This passport breaks my heart, since she looks like the nearly grown up woman she thinks she is.

My stepmother took DD out for some last minute shopping, which turned out to be fruitless. (Child has no shopping genes) When they returned, my stepmother alerted me to some things DD had said, and wanted me to discuss my mother's "travel rules."

Unbeknownst to me, my mom has been telling DD all the things she's supposed to do...and eat. My grandparents have what I would call "old fashioned" tastes, meaning "you eat it before it eats you." Over the years, I've been served every part of a pig but the oink, pet pigeons, pet bunny rabbits, horse and god only knows what else. DD, being a city child, prefers her meat wrapped in plastic at the market, and thinks that pigeons are flying rats, bunnies are pets and would sooner eat a dog than a horse. Mom knows this, but it using the same tack she used on me at DD's age: hissing threats through her teeth, ordering the gagging one to choke it down and like it.

DD was in a dither: What if Oma and Opa serve her Pig's head? (My siblings and I are deeply scarred from watching Opa eat pig face for breakfast one morning when we were kids) She wanted to know if they hunt squirrels and woodchucks or if she'd have to eat pig hoofs. (Do pigs even have hooves?)

So, I modified the rule: If it's something normal American people wouldn't eat (like fish-on-a-stick), she can pass and have bread and butter. If it's a dessert that Tante Lia made, she must eat at least a small piece and pretend to like it. (Tante Lia puts in countless hours making jam tortes and the like, and they all taste horrible. But she loves us dearly, and we don't want to hurt her) At my other Aunts' and Uncles' homes, it won't be so much of a problem -- they are my cousins' parents, and are used to the younger generation not wanting offal as part of their meal.

I contacted my mother and read her the riot act. Do not force food on the child. The child has an emergency supply of Ramen in her suitcase, and will not die. It is abusive to force a child to eat pig face or fish-on-a-stick. Deftly, Mom changed the subject: DD told me that you want to have us bring you home _Beads!?_ in that tone that makes beads sound like a forbidden substance. "What do you mean, Beads?"

I informed her that she should be very familiar with beads, because so much of the jewelry she wears each day is made from those very items, and that she seems to be able to smell when I make something nice out of them. I told her that if they see a bead store, buy me some stuff. If not, don't. I'll be in Germany sooner or later and I'll buy my own. I similarly nixed her offer to go barter for beads in the Czech Republic -- I would rather get ripped off than get the best price - because these beads are the difference between abject poverty and normal poverty.

Mom also had a cow when she heard that DD is handling her own spending money. "You're letting a child handle over a hundred dollars!" Yep, you bet. Especially since that child earned all her spending money.

I got an international calling card for DD, with detailed instructions on how to call home. My cousin has set up DD with an AOL Gaste account, so I can email back and forth with my kid as well. DD is requesting that she get to take Polaroids of her Daddy and me and the dog and P/T D and Grandpa to take with her, so she can take us along with her.

All I have left to do is pack. I'm going to try again to get her to learn how to pack, again; though it really is my responsibility to make sure she has everything she needs for a couple of weeks abroad.

But is her mother ready?

Kathy N-V

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Kathy N-V :

]But is her mother ready?

trust me. no. buy stock in Kleenex.

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Just think about all the wonderful things she will see and do and you will be fine. And, you are sending her off to family, so it's not like she'll be on her own. Patti

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Beads1947

It's great that she's adventurous enough to go! I tried to get my boys interested in being exchange students and not one would do it. It'll be hard for you, but thank God for email.

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Is mother *ever* ready? I hope she has a wonderful time, and that the time passes quickly for you. Diana

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oh Kathy---do I ever relate. When we went to visit my mom in Ohio she tried as hard as she could to have us eat three big meals a day with a double dessert between each one and snacks ten minutes later lest we fade from view. (and yet she kept saying "I can't get over how HUGE you all are...you are so BIG!!!!) My kids couldn't take any more after a while. It wasn't that anything was odd food, really--no pigs' faces or Mr. Ed--but just SOOOOO much food, with no breaks in between. And we don't eat desserts often or much at home--a single piece of pie is a lot--but there a piece of each of three kinds was required, along with icecream...and maybe a cookie after?? We talked quietly and I let the boys know the Rules of Polite Eating At People's Houses---you have to eat something, but NOT everything. Single bites of certain things, as a token of your respect and participation are very fine. And sometimes you just say "no thank you--I'm absolutely stuffed full of wonderful food and I'm just going to sit and appreciate it. When you are stuffed to the point of feeling like Mr. Creosote in "Meaning of Life" its NO fun!!!! Sarajane

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But Sarajane! What if it's wafer thin??????

:-)

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Your mother would never understand this, but an independent girl like DD might, after a glance at a pig's-head-on-a-plate or especially after having just eaten something that looks like a chicken-finger but ends up having been made out of mystery meat which just may contain retired horse-parts, might just turn vegetarian, a feat that would make subsequent visits to Germany even more difficult!

(Not that I would mind of course; I'm a vegetarian myself and would very much appreciate as many new vegetarians as possible, especially ones who think logically and have a well-rounded view on the world!)

I don't know whether you WANT to let her know this or not, but if she really is worried about certain meats, they can show up in almost everything there. There is no reason to assume, for instance, that hotdogs are made out of beef.

marisa2

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Marisa E Exter

My DIL told everyone in Ukraine that I couldn't drink because I'm "allergic". On the other hand I told everyone I don't drink because I am an alchoholic. Just call it consciousness raising.

Tina

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Christina Peterson

and then there's having something forced on ya that you THOUGHT you wanted.... We don't do hotdogs at my house; I read the Jungle ages ago and I don't like eating mystery bits with chemicals added. So of course my kids thought they must be ambrosia in a tube and were thrilled to have them at the reunion. At first. Then came the "why aren't you eating, eat some more!!" litany ("Did you tell them not to eat my food??") and they ended up getting sick on 'em the second day. Now they understand why I don't buy them. Been there, done that, prefer simpler food or hunger. Sarajane

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We only do Kosher hot dogs here. No worries about mystery bits, and only kosher chemicals. hee hee! Cheri (Bubbee to Emily and Nathan)

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from snipped-for-privacy@aol.comstars (Cheri2Star) :

]We only do Kosher hot dogs here. No worries about mystery bits, and only ]kosher chemicals. hee hee!

seconded.

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And figuring out what is and isn't fun over the long haul is a matter of trusting your experience ;-)

Deirdre

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Deirdre S.

UNLESS they say "100% Beef", in which case I try not to imagine which parts of the beef.

I highly recommend kosher franks!

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Kalera Stratton

Unless these tidbits are specifically listed on the label, hot dogs can only have regular muscle meat in them. No weird bits at all.

If you don't believe this, check with the USDA at

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Mary

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 0:50:10 -0400, Mary Shafer wrote (in message ):

What she said. DH was a meat buyer for his previous company, and we got to see a lot of these meat products being made. (Sausage, Hamburger, Hot Dogs, etc.) There was nothing unsavory in any of them. The meat being used in the sausage and hot dogs was fattier than I would like, but it wasn't hoofs and snouts or anything.

I wouldn't eat that kind of stuff every day, but it isn't anything to be afraid of. Check the labels. The USDA has a legal definition of meat, and salivary glands isn't it.

Kathy N-V

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On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 0:04:58 -0400, Kalera Stratton wrote (in message ):

What I don't know about parenting would fill many, many books. I have always approached everything with one thought in mind: I want my daughter to know that she is loved.

That was it. No conditions, no nothing. Just that she's loved and I want her to know that. I knew that I would make mistakes every day, and that I would fess up, apologize and do what I could to improve. God knows, I have a temper, and am far from perfect.

I'm also blessed to have a kid that's easy to love. She's just one of those people that people adore on sight. It's a lot easier to be loving and demonstrative when the object of your affection is loving and demonstrative in return.

I can't discount DH's role in all this, either. He's a terrific father, and has been since before DD drew her first breath. He never was one of those "go see your mother" kinds of people, and has made it clear that his family is his first priority. He parents differently than I do; he is a lot more concerned about being his best self in front of the kids. (He's never sworn once nor told an off color joke in the kids' presence. I barely get through breakfast before I've said something I shouldn't) But I think we complement each other, and I know for sure that his obvious protective streak and willingness to show paternal affection has made a huge difference in P/T D's life.

There's no secret here: just tell them how much you love them, let that guide your decisions, and don't be afraid to show your human and vulnerable side. That's all I've done thus far, and I hope it carries us through her adolescence and into adulthood.

Kathy N-V

Obligatory DD Story: DD and I have had some amazingly nasty arguments over the years. No name calling, though. That's below the belt, as is bringing up anything that the other person cannot change (like appearance, disabilities, etc.) or old stuff. Anyone can state how they feel, and how the other person is upsetting them, and shouting is not a problem, but we don't attack the other person.

When DD was about four, we were arguing over who was going to pick up the books in her bedroom. (She seemed to think that it was my job.) After assorted shrieking, DD announced, "I don't like you anymore. I'm going to live with Omi!"

Without skipping a beat, I snapped back "I'm not too thrilled with you, either. I'll call Omi and help you pack." (Omi is my mother)

DD thought about this turn of events for a few moments then decided she'd give me another chance before moving out. Fortunately, I've toed the line since then, and she still lives here. ;-)

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Kathy N-V

On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:05:54 -0400, Kaytee wrote (in message ):

It sure does, and it says so right on the package. They don't call the stuff meat, they call it by the offal that it is. I wouldn't eat anything like that on a bet.

BTW, it's really easy to make your own sausage, and then you can be sure of what's in it. I buy my spices from Penzeys and grind my own meat. You can buy sausage casings or simply cook the meat as patties. If you want smoked sausage, that's a little more work, but a backyard smoker (or even a kettle style grill) will take care of that. The only big difference will be the color - I don't put nitrites (or is it nitrates) in my home cooked food, so the color will be that of cooked pork rather than pink.

Kathy N-V

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Kathy N-V

Not as easy to get kosher items in many parts of Europe!

Although there are living Jewish communities, in Holland for instance people had a hard time grasping I was American *and* Jewish. Jewdism was linked to the endless WWII literature we lead, not normal modern life, in the eyes of all my classmates. The synagogues we visited (well, the working ones, as opposed to ones which have been restored as museums) were walled and hidden with high-tech security systems. There were a few small stores in Amsterdam where we could get Jewish items, but it wasn't regular to see kosher items in the grocery stores, and we had to get our Matza etc from those one or two special places.

Of course, in the US "kosher franks" aren't just eaten by Jews (and actually aren't always kosher, either), but I believe that they, as well as the current craze with bagels and all of the yid jokes on tv, have to do with the fact that there are active jewish polulations in many of the centers of commerce in the US.

marisa2

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vj found this in rec.crafts.beads, from Marisa E Exter :

]Of course, in the US "kosher franks" aren't just eaten by Jews

no kidding. i love them. they're the only kind i will buy.

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