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If it's installed on your PC then it was factored into the cost.

In Canada too it is stealing. I just asked my husband who's British by birth and he considers it stealing too.

LOL...I ams sure he has an opinion if he is British.

Sorry. If it is installed on my PC then it was removed from the obsolete machine and installed on the new one in accordance with the copywrite rules set out and agreed to between myself and Microsoft or Red Hat or MicroWare etc...

After all the back and forth about what is and is not copyright infringement, I thought I would give a link that might help settle some of this - it is from the Embroidery Software Protection Coalition

- yes, I know they have a point of view, but they have an excellent 'FAQ' on their website that gives common sense and points of law regarding this issue. If you REALLY want to know what is the law (not just jump around and blab your opinion on what you THINK is the law), this is the place to get the straight scoop....

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I thought it was the dongle we were talking about. I still would get around that if I could cause the stupid thing and my printer don't get along. Fortunately it only happens when the ink is low (but not low enough to be changed yet). When I am in digitizer trying to work on a design, the printer keeps popping up in my face. I have tried solutions suggested by Janome but nothing works short of turning off my printer which is also my fax machine. So for me the dongle interferes with the software I purchased and should be able to use without the added irritation.

Well, regardless of what anybody says, the reason pirating is so lucritive is that it is pretty hard to get caught if you don't sell it or give o to the whole world.

If you did hack the damn thing and got caught and it went to court, do you really think the judge when told you purchased a legitimate copy, have the dongle, and have not shared it with anybody, is going to prosecute you by the exact rules? All you did was to use their product in an improved method for yourself. The software suer would probably get laughed out of the courtroom for trying to claim damages.

"I hereby fine you one dollar for getting caught and being honest."

The soapbox is very worn out here for this topic many times over.

Interesting opinions there.

Another note. Much this may be wishfull thinking as copywrites are only valid as far as the borders of the country the copywrite is established in. Most cannot afford copywrite protection in every country.

The law and your personal morals are two different things.

What you say used to be true, but is no longer.

of Literary and Artistic Works, works are protected without any formality in all the

countries party to that Convention. This means that international copyright protection

is automatic, it exists as soon as a work is created, and this principle applies in all

the countries party to the Berne Convention.

You see, the problem with that is registering your copyright with the international bodies. From what I have been told this process is so expensive that companies and individuals cannot afford to register their products in this manner. The individual countries are still cheaper and then ignore a few that may pirate your stuff. Who is going to pursue somebody in Brunie, for instance, anyway?

Canada has participated in this treaty since 1929 and the USA since '89. It hasn't helped for small pirating. They haven't been able to stop most of the pirated music from being sold without the other country's co-operation. Talk/treaty is cheap I guess...LOL

No registration - no proof somebody else didn't invent or write it first. I have heard all kinds of tricks to create time stamped proof of the time of your creation. I am not sure how many will hold up in court.

Thanx for the URL. It is good stuff to know.

Ever think it's the printer driver that's interfering with your software? There are a couple of things you might try.

The first is to install the latest bug patches for whatever version of Windows you are using.

Have you checked your printer's manufacturer's website for updated drivers for your printer? If there are no updates, have you re-installed the printer driver? Sometimes doing that after installing software that requires a dongle can solve problems.

Does Digitizer ask you to select a "default printer"? Some versions of Customizer do this and then complain when starting, if you don't select a printer, but the program still works properly. Janome may have suggested this, but have you tried not selecting a default printer?

gwh

I realize it's probably my printer but the two still don't get along. I even asked my dealer if it was possible to swap the dongle I have for a USB one with no luck. Tried the bug fixes from the printer web site and reinstalling everything. Don't remember Digitizer asking for a default printer. Is there somewhere in the program I can find that and try turning it off?

Ever think it's the printer driver that's interfering with your

Does the printer work ok if it's the only thing connected? Does the program/dongle work if the printer's not connected?

You might try installing another parallel port and keeping the dongle and printer separate (a parallel port shouldn't be more than $10-15, and all they need is to plugged into a slot.

If you're uncomfortable opening up your computer, you could add an external device that would allow you to connect your printer to a usb port. A number of manufacturers make them - I happen to know Belkin.; Google searches on usb parallel adaptor and usb parallel converter will find lots of options This would tie up a usb port, but you can also buy very inexpensive devices (At Fry's they're occasionally free with a rebate) that are just USB octupuses.

- Herb

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I'm not sure. I have only used Customizer and wondered if Digitizer might be similar. I believe that, during the installation process, Customizer asks you to select a default printer. When we installed it, we did not do this. I believe it mentioned we could do that later. Every time we start the program, it shows a message box saying there is no default printer. We just click "OK" and continue with the program.

I'll check to find the menu option that lets us select or change default printers and you can see if there's a similar option for Digitizer.

gwh

Thanks

Crap!!! In general as long as you are not profiting from it, and the owner of any copyright (by the act) does not lose revenues of any relevance, it is defined in the copyright act as fair use.

Not quite. It depends on what the copyright says defined by the owner of the copyright. You agree to abide by these rules in exchange for it's usage.

I dissagree....the owner does not make up the copywrite laws. You copywrite the design and it is protected by the laws. The intent it to keep the owner (designer) from loosing prophets from others using their designs. If I were to make a backup copy for my owner personal use, they are not loosing revenue. If I were using the design for research or teaching...they are not loosing revenue. Also the copywrite laws are limited to the country in which there are registered and those countries with which they have agreements with.

Not quite. You specify what your copyright conditions are and state them with your product. I would be pretty sure there would be a default condition by law. Some (AutoSketch) say you may use and install the product on as many machine as you like provided you only use one copy at a time. Others have different options like some shareware can be used for a limited time or limited uses. This will be stated inside the software or the manual or by electronic locking device or software.

As far as the Local copyright laws see a previous post in this thread for the international copyright agreements. USA have been in since '89 and Canuckistan since 1928. I believe people do not use this treaty because a copyright has absolutely no value unless it it registered somewhere for proof of release date and it is too expensive to do this in every country. Mind you they make ship you home in a box if you get caught in another country doing it...LOL