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Welcome to our group. Yes, there is an etiquette posted somewhere for newsgroups, but I think this covers it in a nutshell. If you post stories about your sewing experiences, tell us about what items you are creating, and/or ask questions as you did about font software, or about sewing in general, you will always be welcome here. Newsgroups are for discussions, and very definitely not for selling items and posting photos is a no-no, as well. Emily

Thanks for the info Emily!! Can I ask someone to digitize something? Or is that a NO NO? :)

Not Emily here, but I'll wade in with my opinion: you can

*ask*, and then it will depend on others in the group if they want to digitize for you. Be sure the artwork you are supplying is either *original* (created entirely by you) or is something you *own* (something you had created and paid for). No one wants to be caught in the middle of a lawsuit by, for instance, Disney, etc.

Also, it's a good idea to specify what format you need, what size, how many color changes, type(s) of fills, etc. Any details that are important to you.

Beverly

Yes .. but read on ...

It's generally not a good idea to use your real e-mail address in public newsgroups - that's just an invitation to the spam bots (robotic programs that scan newsgroups to find working addresses to add to spam mailing lists). Some people just "munge" their addresses so that they can be interpreted by people - for instance snipped-for-privacy@SHOESgmail.com with a note to take off your shoes. Others, like me, simply don't do personal email. And some DO use a real address, and since they continue to do so, it can't be ALL bad :)

Now, back to your question.

Because this is NOT a binaries group, messages can't be posted with attachments here. Many news servers (in your case, Mountaincable.net) will either strip off the attachment or not post the message at all. That's why CypSew said "no pictures". You CAN post a link to material that's on a website, though. And to get your digitized design back, it too would have to be either on a website or be done by someone who's willing to email it to you.

There IS a binaries group that specializes in machine embroidery, where you CAN post an image to be digitized and receive the result back in the newsgroup. That's alt.binaries.crafts.pictures. Unless Mountain cable doesn't carry the binaries groups, you can get to that group the same way you found this one. Just a word of warning - that group often resembles an urban battlefield! But it's perfectly safe to stay on the sidelines and not get involved; I frequently digitize requests that are posted there (if they're easy!)

Welcome aboard!

- Herb

Thanks to Beverly and Herb for your responses! :) And the warm welcome

saw "sewlittletime" , Bless us ALL with:

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Hi , You will have gathered from Herbs response earlier, and your current read of ABCP, the distinct difference in what Emily advises and what is the actual reality (virtual). Emily, like many in "craft groups"assumes you were asking about "rules" as found in Web forums. Usenet Newsgroups, in what is known as the Alt.* hierarchy, have

*no* rules, as such. What is available are Guidelines. Guidelines you can choose to follow or not follow. These consist of:

RFC's - these dictate how Usenet posts are best built and retrieved.

's - these publications vary, depending on forum use, andtherefore most well populated and committed forums have one,specifically for those who expect an introduction to be availableoff-line, just as you so rightly did. has no FAQ published regularly. There is a very looseagreement on Advertising and Product 'enhancement'.The nearest this NG came to having a FAQ published was this post.http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sewing.mach-embroider/msg/85793e0b2949c023?dmode=source&hl=enAs an aside.. the most usefull tool you will find on Usenet is"Google". Not the Google you may be well familiar with but theGoogle linked to below. The Google that was formerly DejaVU -before Guggle bought the archives and partially screwed themover. They are still very useful in discovering what has alreadybeen posted on Usenet as information.http://tinyurl.com/2ury37http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search?q=+%22xxx%22%22xxx%22%22xxx%22&num=100&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8&newwindow=1&safe=off&output=searchHerbs references are accurate as usual, but he really should havementioned that there is a plethora of FAQ postings available inABCP. Much of which also address _all_ respects of etiquette required _anywhere_ in Usenet communities. I know you have not read some of the most important material as your first binary (file) post is OBZ. You are far from alone, that faux pas is possibly the most common error for users of the software you are using to read and post to Newsgroups. This post in ABCP explains more. Message-ID: "{attn]_ Newcomers+Olds - updated How To_information only - [F]requently[A]sked[Q]uestions [rev:28.02]"

As a final point? Newsgroups are much much more than discussion. I wish you the very best in joining us (regulars) in discovering that Fact :-) welcome to Usenet.

saw Herb , wave the pen with:

ahh..yes Herb, that it does from time to time :-D However were some to pay more attention to their read _and_ others check their Samaritan Badge at the door, the scrawny old hags/hobgoblins dressed in goldenNET nightmask and fine linens would not the chauvinist attract..mmmm..heh heh ..mmmmm???

/singing "and the crows squawk on..tis safe here on the fence" [chuckle]

And very helpful that is too. as important as the watertank is to the dust in the urban zones

ditto !

lé.ÞeemÞ

Thanks for the welcome from all who responded. I have checked all the links provided and secretly was hoping for the "dummies guide" to newsgroup postings....unfortunately no such animal exists as far as I can see. Therefore, if I have done or do something out of the "norm" please inform me and I will correct it if I am able... lamens terms work best for me. Great group BTW :)

Over in the newsgroup alt.sewing, several people have contributed to an FAQ, you might find this helpful:

================================== All new posters, please read the following FAQ:

[Regulars here can ignore]

This FAQ was compiled by several regulars here:

Welcome Sewists and new posters! Here are some guidelines to posting to the sewing newsgroups. In case you are wondering where you are and how you got here, you are in a newsgroup, AKA "Usenet" which is a part of the internet that has been around much much longer than the www, which it is not a part of. These groups are not moderated.

This information is protocol and etiquette that has been in use for over *20* years on Usenet (newsgroups are Usenet) I have edited this from these sites:

link to the news.newusers.questions web site, , If you are seeking information on a common topic, try doing search at if you don't find your subject, post a basic question tothe group.

Be precise in your requests for information. If you are seeking help on a technique, or are having a problem, the more information you give, the more someone will be likely to be able to help you with your request. Put some thought into your header: "problem" or "I need help" are much more likely to be ignored than a specific header such as " help: facing has wrinkles" or "where can I find fine linen".

There is a "what machine should I buy" FAQ.

NO Advertising. NONE. No commercial ads, no auction notices, no eBay announcements, no "for sale" private party ads, no links to a commercial site; nothing. There are marketplace groups for ads. (rec.crafts.textiles.marketplace) Ever been to a Usenet group that has more ads than posts? This also includes one line posts announcing commercial sites. And yes, this is a grey area, but in past discussions the overwhelming majority are in agreement that all ads need to go to the marketplace. If you would like to know more about advertising on Usenet, here's a link link to it: Advertising on Usenet: How To Do It, How Not To Do It

Please don't argue with us about it should be OK for

**you** to do it.

Edit your replies. If you are replying to a post that is rather lengthy, use your editing functions to pare the message down. If you reply without leaving a portion of the request in, and the header isn't clear, many people will not know what you are posting about. If the subject changes in the course of a reply, change your header so that people will know what your post is about.

The sewing newsgroups are pretty chatty. Keep in mind that not everyone may be interested in the non-sewing chatter about kids, cooking, pets, parenting, religion, whatever. It's polite to put an OT for OFF TOPIC in the header, either if the thread has "derailed" to not be about sewing anymore, or if it's obviously not sewing related.

Please do not top post: this is putting your answer above the comment you are replying to. It's hard to track the conversation when you do this.

This is a public forum, and an international one. There may be hundreds of people reading your posts. Many people have to pay for their download/online time by the minute which is the main reason for keeping headers concise and posts succinct. Also, don't assume that everyone is in the USA; they are not!!

No photos. This is not a binary group. Please post photos to the web and put up a link. NO HTML either, this is a text only forum.

Signature files: No more than 4 lines please. (bandwidth again) If someone is a participant in the group, it is considered acceptable to list business information in the signature file.

No "me-too ism": it's a waste of bandwidth. So is, "I know I saw something somewhere...."

Remember this is a public, unmoderated forum that reflects each of us as individuals. If someone's posts really drive you nuts on a regular basis, you can make them "go away" using a killfile. This is an option in most newsreader software that will block any posts by a specified sender. For the how on killfiles see: Killfile and Anti Troll FAQs at

is any form of unwanted posts or email, usuallycommercial and unsolicited. Please don't ask for an email only reply. DL put it very well: "I don't normally send an email copy unless it's specifically requested, and I usually won't respond at all to someone who says, "I don't normally read this group, so please send me an email copy," but I don't mind at all sending a copy to someone who says, "I read this group regularly, but a lot of posts never make it to my server."

The difference is that the first person is basically saying, "I'm too busy and too important to be bothered with checking in the newsgroup for answers. I don't value your time in composing a response, and maybe spending some time doing research to answer the question, but _my_ time is too valuable to waste coming back here to read it. I also don't care if anyone else is able to benefit from the responses--just send me the email."

Many many people have contributed to this over the years. Thanks to all for links, editorial comments and input. =================================

This group seems a little more open to ads, as long as they are short and stay on topic.

Beverly

saw "sewlittletime" , Bless us ALL with:

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I can see no better example of "lamens [sic] terms" than the immediate followup to your post: From: "BEI Design" Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 08:59:49 -0700 Message-ID:

Are you able to read that post? Seems not so as you responded to mine with a top posted response. Something that is made quite clear in my post and that posted by Beverly as a good way to piss folks off.

lé.ÞeemÞ