choosing a glass grinder

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I need some help choosing a glass grinder.  I took some stained glass
classes a while ago and started a fairly large project (it is a window
with a geometric pattern)  Since then the man who had the stained glass
store moved and the store closed. Unfourtantly I was not able to buy a
grinder from him before the store closed, and I need one if I am going
to continue with glass work (and finish the window I owe my sister )
:)  Along with some recomendations on grinders I was also hoping
someone could tell me anything they could about flat disk grinders, I
saw the diamond Max 2 on the web while I was poking around and it
sounds like it might be something that would make doing a geometric
pattern a lot easier..... Any thoughts???
thanks :-)


Re: choosing a glass grinder
Hi

On 25 Aug 2006 19:13:55 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@aim.com wrote:

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Looking at the problem from a diifferent angle.....
I'm imagining that the geometric panel is mostly straight lines - with
glass cut into squares, diamonds, triangles etc ? (If not the case
then none of the following will apply <g>)

My experience has been that it's always quicker to cut the glass to
the right size rather than 'expect' to have to cut first and then
grind to size .... - though I know some teachers 'teach' the
cut'n'grind method.

With that in mind - perhaps you need a better way of cutting, rather
than a better way of grinding ..?

I use the Morton system most of the time. It's a series of adjustable
clamps that fit into a plastic matrix - and will let you cut lots of
pieces of glass to 'exactly' the same size and shape.

Suppose you had 20 3" squares to cut. With the Morton system - you can
set up the metal cutting guide at 90-degrees to the 'location bar',
and set a couple of 'stops' to give you strips of glass exactly 3"
wide. Once you have the strips, use the right-angle guide to sqaure
off one end, then cut the strips into 3" squares.

It's ten times quicker to do than to describe.
You can also jig up for non-90-degree shapes.
The great thing you'll achieve is 'repeatability' - all of your 3"
squares will be 3", and square <g>

You might then find that a quick touch with a grinder along each edge
will make life (& assembly) easier - but you'll be taking off a tiny
amount of glass quickly, rather than trying to 'grind to size /
shape'.

Hope this helps
Adrian
Suffolk UK  

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Your instinct to look at a disc grinder is correct.   It is well nigh
impossible to grind a straight line any other way.

Adrian's comments about cutting the glass to a tighter tolerance is correct,
but if you need to grind a lot of pieces that are already cut a flat disc is
the best way to go.  However.....

From a cost and time standpoint, you might be better off to toss the
oversize pieces and recut everything.  The cost of a sheet or two of glass
might not be as much as buying a grinder,  and you certainly can cut a lot
of new pieces in the same time you would spend grinding some to size.

The Diamond Max grinders are cheap Chinese junk.   You would be much better
off to find an Inland or Glastar.   Look around on the web and remember that
eBay is your friend.



Re: choosing a glass grinder
"From a cost and time standpoint, you might be better off to toss the
oversize pieces and recut everything.  The cost of a sheet or two of glass
might not be as much as buying a grinder,  and you certainly can cut a lot
of new pieces in the same time you would spend grinding some to size."
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for straight line cuts ONLY ONE WORD x3

JIG     JIG    JIG

buyable or makeable


as fast as you can push a cutter on a straight edge you can score glass
easy to snap a stack of glass in one quick flex
just a light grind is necessary for foil
no grind for came

h





Re: choosing a glass grinder
DO NOT BUY INLAND CRAP....AND THEY DON'T HONOR THEIR WARRANTY.

TOTAL JUNK



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Re: choosing a glass grinder
this is absolutely NOT the experience i have had with inland. i've been
using their products about 20 years.m
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Re: choosing a glass grinder

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Me, too.  I have 2 Wizlings, one on my service truck and the other in the
shop.  They both are more than 20 years old and still going strong.  One of
them had a switch go bad a couple of years ago, and I called Inland.  They
sent me one at N/C and sent it priority mail, to boot.

I'd say that was pretty darn good customer service.  All I asked them for
was the OEM switch mfg's part number, so I could go try to find one at an
electronics shop.  I figured that the 18 year-old part wouldn't even be
available.  I offered to pay for the part, and they wouldn't take my money.

Ya know?   Customer service "sometimes"  is all about how you present your
problem to the rep.  I've found that "can you help me?"  works a LOT better
than "you lousy SOB's make junk grinders".



Re: choosing a glass grinder
Inland and Glastar are both good grinders.  I have both and each has
served me well.  Don't know anything about Diamond Max, but I've heard
in various circles that they are not of very high quality.

I suggest practicing your scoring techniques to obtain a straight line.
  The Morton System is another good tool to use if you need lots of
identical pieces.  But, don't rely on a grinder to straighten your cuts.
  Otherwise, you'll be living at the grinder and things will become
monotonous and you'll grow tired of the art.  The key words for straight
lines are: Practice, Practice Practice.

Moonraker wrote:
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Re: choosing a glass grinder
well i have two sitting her that have burnt out motors, one is less then a
year old.

still working on getting warranty.

back using old (4year) glastar.

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Re: choosing a glass grinder
Sorry to hear that you have two burned out units.  I have an Inland that
is nearly 10 years old with absolutely no problems encountered through
frequent use.  Same would go for the larger Glastar that I've had for
about 5 years.

There are good ones and bad ones, just as you would find with anything
else you would buy these days.

Is your warranty problem with the factory or vendor?  I would suspect
the vendor may be the problem and doesn't want to deal with it.  Try the
factory, if you haven't already.  Good luck.  I hope you get the problem
resolved!!!!!!

diddlywhoot wrote:
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Re: choosing a glass grinder
have a look at the inland wizling. A great product, inexpensive, good
customer service. m



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