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I am currently working on releading a 18th French panel. The lead appears to
have machine marks in the channel.(Image attached) My guess is that the panel
had been releaded more recently.
Does anyone know where I might find information on determining the age of a
panel from the came marks?
TIA
-Doh

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to have machine marks in the channel.(Image attached) My guess is that the
panel had been releaded more recently.
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a panel from the came marks?
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There is a book on Stained Glass Restoration by Julie??????,  her husband
Albert????used to post here.  I have the book, but can't find it a the
moment.  As I recall,  there were some photos of the different types of lead
extrusions.  Maybe you can get your answers there.

I got my book on eBay,  I think Albert was selling them, and was a regular
poster here until he and someone got into a pissing match about some website
design or the like.

There is, in case you didn't know it, a custom lead smelter in Conyers, GA
that can duplicate old came profiles if you have to have an exact match.
They have hundreds of dies already, and may already have something you could
use.  I can't remember the name of the place, but they do/did have a
website.



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Her name is Julie L. Sloan. I have the book but can't find anything about age
determination. Thanks anyway.
-Doh

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can you think of any part of their name etc>>> in Conyers???

Kitty



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DHD metals



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It's DHD metals.  They are on the north side of i-20 near the olympic horse
park.  Or, were.  It's been 5 years since I've been there.



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Sorry about that, I know my name isn't "moonraker" but I had been searching
for them also.
http://www.stainedglass.org/images/display/dhd-metals.jpgthis link should
get you in touch with them.



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I just phoned them---number disconnected--but the "800" number answered but
had to leave message

Hope they are still in business

Kitty



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I think that number in Conyers has been inoperative for quite some time.
When I was there, several years ago, there was just one or two people there
and the "office" was somewhere else.  There may be phone service there, but
not a published number.  I just "showed up" one day.  They have pretty large
minimum orders and I didn't need enough to make it worthwhile to have my
money tied up in lead inventory.



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You need to a least 1 case. That's it.


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Vic---are they still in business? Are they anywhere near that new mini mall
just before the Horse Park???


thanks Kitty



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mall

DHD metals is in the current (May 2005) Atlanta business white pages, @1301
Olympic Ct., SW in Conyers.  Phone is 770-760-9404



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Near the mini mall? I live in NYC, what do I know about mini malls in
Georgia?

They have a toll free # 800-428 6693.

It's normal to have to leave a message with them.


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Well,  they wouldn't assort various restoration profiles to make up a
"case",  and the standard profiles weren't that good of a deal vs. what I
was already getting elsewhere.   I didn't need 60 pcs of some oddball
profile.  I would have bought 6 pcs each of 10 different ones, just to have
on hand "in case".



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They are a manufacturer not a retail store. They stock very little and
run whatever profile is needed.  The time needed to run just 6 pieces
would cost a fortune.

I have purchased various profiles in 50 pound cases.


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Yeah, I know that.  But they "had" open boxes of various profiles that
they'd apparently sold out of to someone else, but wouldn't do a mix and
match for me.  I do repair work,  not fabrication.  I need variations, not
quantities.



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In an 1983 article by Viggo Rambusch, he states that milled lead
appeared in the 17th century. Prior to that came was milled. Extruded
came started after WWI.  This is of course a general statement, as many
studios made their own came. So milled leads are still being produced
in small quantities by individual studios.


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ERROR. Should have said that prior to that came was cast.


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Have you ever milled your own lead?  or do you know where the equipment
might be available to do so?

There is an old lead I run into occasionally that has a rough, "tree bark"
appearance on the face.  Have not seen it ,(new production), ever and the
old box I have of old supply is running low.



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No, I don't mill my own lead,nor do I know where to get the equiptment.
DHD in Georgia makes a "tree bark" came that is emborsed on the
flanges. Looks like it's carved.


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