FS moly elements/transformer

Several hundred dollars.

Send me a check then. I wrote this stuff off long ago, anything I get for it is fine. I don't have time to shop it around for the best price.

Bury old New Orleans? Jeezis Mike that seems harsh.New Orleans is a bona fide cultural treasure; one of very few that exist in the US. Its worth saving and worth fighting mother nature for, IMO. Maybe not sensible, but f*ck sensible.

I wonder how Andy Brott is doing. I guess he had a big studio build going.

he's in chicago looking for a place to work. he reported in on craftweb.com

Chicago is a logical move for his work. His stuff has a kind of funk jazzy flavor that I always felt fit well with New Orleans. If you think about it Chicago is that kind of metro funk environment except more bluesy. Hard to look on the bright side but the experience will take his work in new directions it wouldn't have otherwise. Andy is the real deal. Way too few in glass these days as a percentage of the group.

Most of the guys who reported in on Craftweb say they can tell from aerial photos that there is little damage to studios If New Orleans is worth saving, as more than an amusement park near Lafayette (above sea level) then the money should go to getting it above sea level as Galveston did a century ago and not to increasing the politicians to upper middle class, which is what usually happens in Louisiana.

FYI and speaking of Shaftweb I sold these elements back to Steve Stadelman. He apparently saw the wisdom in taking them back. I still have the transformer though. If anyone wants it, I'll sell it for $150 and you pay to ship it from my Oregon shop. Its probably worth more than that in copper.

I don't know how you move a city. Maybe they should make New Orleans into New Venice.

Well, one way is to jack it up and put fill underneath it, which is what they did in Galveston. The other is to rebuild it as Fantasyland, moving those buildings that can be on wheels (or barges in the case of NO).

I was thinking about that the other day and wondered how much work it would be. As a back of the envelope, suppose that there are 1,000,000 residents in 200,000 houses and each house is on a lot that's 100 x 100 feet and four times that much area spread across streets, malls, parks, and so forth, and that it has to be raised 6 feet. That's 20,000 x 200,000 x 4 x 6/27 cubic yards of fill. That comes out to around 3.6 billion cubic yards. A regular dump truck carries around 15 yards. That's 240 million trips. I don't know where the nearest fill would be. Suppose it's only 50 miles away. That's around

500 million man-hours just of dump truck driver time, which at $15 an hour would be $7 billion. And that's probably the cheap part, since you have to raise all the buildings, extend utility lines, repave everything, pay for depreciation and fuel for the equipment, and so on. I wouldn't be surprised to find the total was several hundred billion bucks since as you mentioned the political system has a lot of friction in it.

I'm not saying it's a bad idea--I'm just saying that human nature suggests that people won't pay for it and people will insist on moving back anyway. Hopefully they can at least make sure there's adequate transport available in the future, but I wouldn't bet even money on it.

Mike Beede

That's true, and it'd be you and me that would pay that bill--and I ain't even been to NO yall. I agree the best solution is to bail it out and then be sure we hire experienced competent folks to come up with an effective evacuation plan.

How about: most of the houses are on 50x75 lots or smaller? I just read that during the Bush administration, Louisiana has received 1.9 Billion dollars for Corps of Engineer projects, more than second place California ($1.5B), much of which went to Pork projects like bigger locks for the Industrial Canal which didn't need them for fading barge traffic while local residents sued to stop the project.