Glass Price Increases????

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I was doing an onsite repair the other day and found that I needed a piece
of Spectrum W100 that was bigger than what I had with me at the time.  So I
went to a local SG retail shop for what I needed.

This particular store sells glass by the pound, not by the square
foot....anyway, the price of clear water glass was almost $6.00/lb.  Seemed
awfully high, and when I inquired,  the "blame" got put on higher engergy
prices and manufacturer's price increases.

So, what WERE the increases from the mfg's, percentage wise?

Or was I being hoo-dooed?



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no increase in my wholesale price.


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You guessed best last.

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I don't think you were being "hoo-dooed". I've seen Waterglass
retailed for anywhere's from $6 a sq. ft to $9 or more, depending on
where you are. Besides, you paid retail so you're going to pay more
than wholesale. And, with a wholesale price of around $3 a foot it
sounds like you paid a fair retail price. However, part of the higher
costs CAN be put on the energy situation. My freight costs are about
25% higher than they were last year. My utilities cost more, my
insurance has gone up, employee wages have gone up, yada, yada. so who
pays for all this?...The customer as in every business.

Andy

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I don't think you were being "hoo-dooed". I've seen Waterglass
retailed for anywhere's from $6 a sq. ft to $9 or more, depending on
where you are. Besides, you paid retail so you're going to pay more
than wholesale. And, with a wholesale price of around $3 a foot it
sounds like you paid a fair retail price. However, part of the higher
costs CAN be put on the energy situation. My freight costs are about
25% higher than they were last year. My utilities cost more, my
insurance has gone up, employee wages have gone up, yada, yada. so who
pays for all this?...The customer as in every business.

Andy

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I don't think you were being "hoo-dooed". I've seen Waterglass
retailed for anywhere's from $6 a sq. ft to $9 or more, depending on
where you are. Besides, you paid retail so you're going to pay more
than wholesale. And, with a wholesale price of around $3 a foot it
sounds like you paid a fair retail price. However, part of the higher
costs CAN be put on the energy situation. My freight costs are about
25% higher than they were last year. My utilities cost more, my
insurance has gone up, employee wages have gone up, yada, yada. so who
pays for all this?...The customer as in every business.

Andy

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Probably wouldn't cost so much if you didn't post in triplicate!  ya think?
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  You paid a fair price. I get $6 a sq. Everything is going up that's in
anyway related to fuel... which is near everything.  Damn it cost me $45 to
fill up my van with gas! Expect a huge price hike again.

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JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
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There's a bit of difference between $6/lb and $6/ft sq.

I have a work van with a 33 gal tank.  It usually takes almost two tanks a
week.....my gasoline bill , including what I use in my other vehicle, runs
close to $175 per week.

I'm beginning to think I can't stand prosperity like this....



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   What's the difference, like 10%? I think 1 sq = 1.1 lbs or something like
that.

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JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
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Difference between square foot versus per pound.  It all depends on the
thickness of the glass of course.  My local shop sells Spectrum by the
square foot and Bullseye by the pound.  Very confusing.  My experience shows
most glasses convert at around 1.6 pounds per square foot.  Some internet
stores use 1.8 as the conversion number for shipping and packaging charges.


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Gas prices are increasing and are likely to continue to do so for some
time. This however doesn't justify increases of that magnitude.

I calculate a sheet of clear WG @ 12 lbs/2x4 sheet = 1.5 lbs/sq ft.
At quoted price $6.00/lb. the selling price was $9.00/sq ft.  That's
rip-off retailing - a good reason to support Etailers.

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And just what is the price that every retailer should be selling this
glass for? Every business had different overheads which constitute the
selling price of goods. Retailers provide more than just supplies...if
it weren't for retailers you etailers would really be struggling. you
can't teach classes, you can't give decent advice because you can't
see the project, you can't pick decent glass...all good reasons for
supporting your local retailer. In fact...these are basic ideas in
supporting local businesses.

Andy

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I agree wholeheartedly...  My prices for "things", or commissions, will vary
in cost compared to my friends that have stores, my rent is less than theirs
and I have no electric bill, (don't ask), and I don't support any of the
local little league teams, or much else.  These things govern the cost of
goods sold, not just what the wholesaler sells me the glass for, plus
shipping.  On the occasion I have to buy a piece of glass from the select
retailer I do NOT complain, I don't figure that guy drives a Lexus or
Mercedes or a Cadillac, and it reminds me why I don't want to sell retail.
He is selling at that price because he HAS to.

Just my thoughts on it.....



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I believe that if a retailer can't build a successful business
charging no more than double the wholesale price, that retailer should
clear the field to make room for a more efficient one that can.

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    Where do you get these rules from Dennis? Retailers sell items based on
very different criteria. Let's examine yours. A shipment of glass can cost a
retailer hundreds of dollars in freight alone. Add in the basic cost of
doing business that we call overhead. This includes rent or taxes,
utilities, insurance, let's not even talk about employees and salaries for
all. Oops..... what about breakage? If a retailer gets lucky, they may make
20% profit using your system with sheet glass.  Now if you're talking about
a ring saw, then maybe your idea works, but how many $300 saws can he sell
for $600? At the 20% we do make on saws we make a whole $60. Is that being a
successful retailer?
    The real answer in retail Dennis, is that it takes a very wise and
varied approach to be successful. That means an assortment of markups that
yield a profit. Glass is the highest because of the problem of big money
outlay, that returns a smaller percentage profit. Be a sport and support
your local retailer, with a few extra bucks. You pay a bit extra to buy
razor blades and diapers at your 7-eleven than the supermarket right? Do you
bitch to them too?
    Without the SG retailer, there would be no hobbyists that you can
lecture to.

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JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
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snipped-for-privacy@debrady.com (Dennis Brady) wrote in message
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You're kinda biting the hand that feeds you aren't you? Afterall,
Northwest's retail shop sells Waterglass for just about $9 a foot and
that's where you buy your glass. Face it dude, your business sense is
woth all of about a nickle...despite your claim of having a business
degree which btw...you don't or can't seem to provide any actual
proof.

Have a nice day!

Carl

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Come up and visit beautiful Victoria for the Victorian Glass Art
Festival next September.

...be happy to get you a copy of the complete CV.  Wanna list of where
all I've taught?  Come visit.  Lotsa great classes - in a truly
beautiful place.

http://www.victorianglassartfestival.com

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  Any reason you haven't addressed any of the responses to your post re:
retailers markups for glass?  I saw several that directly contradicted yours
with compelling evidence that what you paid was perfectly fine.

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JK Sinrod
Sinrod Stained Glass Studios
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No.  I still believe a retailer should be able to sell glass at no
more then double their cost.  I also believe that those that insist on
higher markups will be driven to extinction by the Etailers and other
more competitive retailers.  As another poster here so well comments,
the free market will decide who lives and who dies.

You may believe a higher markup is required.  I don't believe it's
sustainable in a free market.

Adapt or die.

Dennis Brady
DeBrady Glass
www.debrady.com
Victorian Art Glass
www.victorianartglass.biz

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