Grozer/Breaker Tool

It doesn't make any difference. I've used both over the past 27 years. If you've got the combo pliers, flat side up to break. I never groze and I don't teach it. Glass shards get all over the place. Learn how to cut better. A pair of Glastar Ring pliers are a good investment. Heck, I can even use a Morton M-80 with great results. Plus if you have a grinder you can shape out just about anything.

Andy

I never groze and I don't teach it. Glass shards get all over the place. Learn how to cut better.

*********** Thanks for mentioning this. I'm scared to death of grozing, much for the reason you mention, but also for the potential for destroying the piece I'm working on. I'm gonna bail on most of the grozing.

Michael

Andy I thought you were a real man not a sissy? We certainly teach grozing, and it's the single best and quickest method for shaping a small mistake. It's a skill that takes a bit of practice, that we encourage using scrap glass over a garbage pail.

Andy I thought you were a real man not a sissy? We certainly teach grozing, and it's the single best and quickest method for shaping a small mistake.

************* Haha! Notice I said I was going to bail on "most" of the grozing.

As far as being a real man, I'm scared most all the time. I went out and bought a face shield to wear when using my kickbutt new grinder. That puny plastic shield mounted over the top wasn't enough for me. I had visions of long spikes of glass sticking halfway out of my eyeball.

Michael

Blood and glasswork go well together. I've bled on many projects over the years. By the way, I know Andy, so I'm allowed to tease him and question his manhood.

take a 10 gallon fish tank, turn it on it's side, insert grinder. it will contain all the chips, and also any glass powder slung off.

regards, charlie

Forget grozing, forget grinding...use a SAW!!!!!! Hell, forget it all and learn SGO!!! BWAAAAAAAA!!!!!