Kiln arrived: Is this damage?

Hi, all! The kiln I ordered has arrived and was I ever excited! After digging through a small mountain of peanuts, I finally was able to haul it out of the carton. Now mind you, I am at present a hobbyist in stained glass and a total novice to warm glass. So what I purchased was a small

120v fusing/annealing octagon kiln with pyrometer and infinite heat controller. Internally it measures 11.25" diameter and 4.5" deep. Anyway, upon opening her up and amidst the pinholes, indentations and knotholes that make up most kiln bricks, I discovered a hole 3/4" deep and about 1/2" in diameter that also burrows in behind the face of the brick about 5/16" in two directions.

I contacted the vendor who assured me that this is typical in kiln bricks and will not cause me any issue. My personal experience, which is limited, says that the hole is significantly larger than "business as usual." You can see what I am talking about in these photos (assuming this link works.)

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yes...one of the photos is of the broken kiln shelf that was packed with the kiln.

The point is that I just want to play...now! So my questions to you are whether this is indeed typical in kiln bricks; would you return the kiln, repair the hole, or just use the kiln as it is; would you expect any trouble down the line due to a hole of this size; or, finally, am I just showing my ignorance?

Thanks in advance for any thoughts!

Lori

Reply to
FlameNwind
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From the pictures, the hole doesn't look all that awful. You'll probably have similarly sized chunks missing after you've opened the lid while the kiln is hot a few times. My personal opinion is that it's nothing to worry about.

Reply to
Ron Parker

(And if you're still worried, just stuff some fiberfrax in there.)

Reply to
Ron Parker

My opinion, that is an air hole in the making of the brick, maybe the builder shouldn't have used it, but it doesn't do much, good or bad. IF you fill it with something, you risk that something falling in your project. Leave it alone, it will make no difference in the heating or cooling of the kiln, and nothing will fall in your "stuff".

The shelf, call the idiots up and remind them that the shippers are not as careful as the builders, or the artist, then call the shipper and make a damage claim. The shipper will go after the person that packed it in such a half way sturdy method.

Reply to
Javahut

Square shelf to fit octagon kiln? Ask the kiln supplier if they have some patching insulating cement (paste). You will have to spray the lid to wet it and then apply the patch like plastering mud. Maybe undercut the hole a bit although it looks undercut somewhat already. If they do flack and you have (or can get a small quantity) some, use the frax suggestion to partly fill the hole and then get Furnace Cement, used for repairing wood stoves, etc., thus at some hardware stores or wood stove stores if you have them. Ugly black stuff that turns white when fired. Read container for precausions and safe practices.

Reply to
Mike Firth

That's a pretty ugly looking hole but it should be OK. Just vacuum out any crumbs in the hole and rub any loose crumbs from the edges. What brand is this kiln? Definitely get the shipper or company to replace the broken kiln shelf.

Reply to
C Ryman

Threaten to send it back, shipping on them, and they'll be thrilled to give you some money back for your troubles to cover any costs you may incurr in rectifying it.

Reply to
Glassman

I appreciate everyone's input and assurances. The vendor has been quite exceptional; they are sending me kiln cement (which I doubt I will use given the chance that it could fall into my projects), kiln gloves and infrared safety glasses. Oh yes, they are also sending a replacement shelf. Frankly, I was double-minded about the gloves and glasses...since a freebie isn't what I was looking for...just a kiln that was good to go. They also assured me that if any problems should arise or if I chose to use the cement, that the warranty for the kiln still stands. So, I am more than happy...and will most likely purchase other tools, materials and possibly my next kiln from these folks when I go to upgrade!

All your assurances have really helped this novice not totally freak out...I'll save that for what I am sure will be some interesting projects! lol

Lori

Reply to
FlameNwind

Lori, Given the temperatures you will operate at, that little indent doesn't amount to much, and I doubt you will even know it's there for operating the kiln, and it sure was nice of them to send stuff, to "make you happy". But I would think, and use the kiln while thinking, before I put anything "above" my projects that might fall in to something very important to me... I know I already said it, but it is worth saying again...can you tell I have been there? Done that, and won't do it again.

Now play!! Remember all those rules? there are NO rules.. push the limits of what you ere taught.

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Reply to
Javahut

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