Need source for natural bristle "patina" brush

You will be disappointed. The brush in question, when mounted on an electric drill, does a poor job because of the angle you have to hold the brush at. You can't reach out into the middle of a window and get enough pressure on the brush.

On the other hand, I know of "someone" who has developed a tampico bristle brush mounted on an arbor to fit a slow-speed sander/polisher. This brush enables a studio to do in a couple of hours what would have taken a whole day to burnish.

Are you talkin' about the Pzazz brush? I've been using it since it came out and find it to be an excellent tool. I don't like it for lead but use it on foiled projects. If you can't reach out into the middle of the window then maybe the window's too big. :-)

Andy

I have personally tried, tested and am still playing with that "other" brush, the one that works on a sander /polisher, and I'll tell you what....IT IS THE GREATEST THING!! I really, really like it. LOTS easier on my shoulders and we did some re-leads not long ago, 45 x 64, (That was the original size!!) church panels and buffed those beauties ,(4 of them) in just a couple of hours, including soldering the tie wires and buffing that area again!! Made those panels stand proud and cleaned them up nicely with a small amount of powder to help.

I really LIKE this tool, and the brush gets its own patina nicely too. Wish I could slow it down more to put the putty in with...

A true variable speed polisher might be the answer instead of the HF that will only slow down to about 900 rpm. I tried power-puttying a panel....made a mell of a hess.

Ouch...now that really hurt! LOL

Andy

and a woman's brain and muscle to know when and how to use 'em !! ;>) m

"Moonraker" > Uhhh......some of us make panels bigger than a suncatcher and need real

I have a 1/2" Jacob,s right angle chuck that I use on a 1/2" variable speed drill. I use it with various size hole saws for drilling through floor joist and studs where there is not enough room for a drill. With a 5" hole saw I can run at 10 or 15 rpm with no problems at all. It is all in the trigger finger :-) This configuration may work for your polishing operation. I purchased my right angle chuck at a Sears store.

Daym>

While that may be the answer in the slow speed stuff, "comfort in use" would be an issue, consider this tool,

it has a "lock in run" button on the handle and the variable speed is1000-3000, which is set with a roller switch, not my finger pressure, whichis unreliable. The 5/8-11 arbor is the important part for that dandy round brush that Moonraker was talking about.

My next test, soon, is to use a "router speed control" on the thing, but I see the Harbor Freight guys have another version of this that reports a speed of 300 - 3000. May have to try it.

and Andy, should you read this, if you like, and sell, the Pzazz brush, you will really like this one, when someone tries it, they will feel the difference right away and it sells itself. Person has to be predisposed to use a brush of this type and not stuck in the "old ways" of doing things.

You might try my own 'secret weapon'..... I took a Makita palm sander, one of those that vibrates like h*ll.... and screwed a large natural bristle scrub brush to the baseplate years ago to use for cleaning up after cementing panels. It'll make your hand go numb if you use it too long... and I'm really not sure it is any improvement over just using my arm. Every now and then I still use it ... but last night I just did it by hand... again. Thought I'd mention it since it seemed a related tool ... although I'm talking cement process, not patina. Either method does leave a nice 'natural' patina, whose permanence is a matter of opinion.

But where does one reliably purchase such natural bristle scrubs in this day and age of synthetic garbage that so enhances our lives?

cheers, Jacques Bordeleau

This took more than I thought it would to find them. Do you want or care for the story? Used to be from TOC,( gone out of biz or bought by someone) then Rubbermaid,(bought/merged with Newell and discontinued part) and now I find them by Weiler and that is where you search for someone near you part number 44023, I found them in MI at Hubbard Supply.

Look under Quickie Manufacturing.

Sometimes I get lucky and find them at a $1 store, and I buy the entire case of them! One year as I was running out, I actually chopped them in 1/2 with a mitre saw!

i don't suppose fuller brush company still exists? I have a natural bristle brush i use that was originally a shoe-shine brush. Horse hair. Might be a way to find such an animal>>> m

Tampico is a plant fiber, not a bristle, strictly speaking. Same plant as they make tequila from, so it can't be all bad. I use a 3 1/2" natural hog bristle brush on a flex tool at a medium-slow speed. It does a beautiful job on lead. The Rio Grande part number of the brush is 336457. Problem is you have to buy a twelve-pack of the brushes for 20$. Unless you know some sucker who has eleven of them he's not using at the moment.

How long does it take you to polish a 4-0 x 4-0 bath window on both sides?

I guess it depends how many lead lines there are. It doesn't take long, but it didn't take that long when I did it with a hand brush either. The polishing doesn't take me as long as picking out the putty boogers.