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Or, you might see flourescent fixtures rated for 277v. And you might see 3 phase, or 2 wire 220, or 3 wire 220. And you might even see 440v motors.

If you have 199v at the socket, you have bigger problems than can be discussed on a news group. ;

Well, strictly speaking, yes. However, we were talking about appliances and tools commonly used in homes and glass studios. I thought it went without saying that one would know what the domestic line voltage was.

Yeah, I got interrupted by a pesky customer on the phone.

Why on earth would anyone need 4 irons going at a time, unless they were teaching a class?

And finding a fuse in the boonies of Turkey might be an adventure.

So, you want Arlene's studio to go up in flames like Sinrod's kiln, eh?

And you are right about the ability to totally load a transformer with intermittent current draws. Personally, I wouldn't do that, preferring to have enough power available to do what I want, when I want. And not worry about overheating and the like. It doesn't cost any more to run a big transformer than a small one.

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Moonraker
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Obviously you haven't taken Dennis's "Two Hands, Four Irons, Speed Soldering" course.

Jack

Reply to
nJb

215/220/230/240volts.

Hell, everytime I sign up for it, they cancel the class and won't let him in the country! I think their bullshit meter went off on him again and they had to do a cavity search, and he wouldn't let them stop.

Reply to
Javahut

I mentioned 4 as a counterpoint to your claim that a 300 watt transformer could "basically only handle one soldering iron at a time. "Basically," it can handle (3) 100 watt irons, and with certain irons,

4 will be no problem. Also, she said she does plan on teaching classes, so if she teaches 3 students at a time, is it so inconceivable that she'd want 3 or 4 irons?

Damn! Am I that transparent?

100 watts @ 75% duty cycle + grinder varying between 100 and 200 watts won't ever even warm up a 300 watt transformer... assuming the grinder motor is rated for 50/60 Hz rather than just 60 Hz.

Big transformers cost more than little ones... and they do cost more to run, albeit "insignificantly more" depending on your definition of "insignificant" in this context.

Some people buy an 8-cylinder engine when they only need 4. Other people prefer to buy 4 cylinder engines when they only need 4, even if they know they may need to upgrade to a 6 cylinder at some future date.

I'm just pointing out that the 300 watt transformer Arlene has already bought can run up to four temperature controlled irons for classroom situation, or 3 non-temperature controlled irons, or an iron and a grinder, or two grinders. Until she needs to run more than that, her transformer should be fine.

Arlene: could you provide a link to your transformer so we can take a closer look at the specs. Failing that, maybe any numbers given other than just the wattage rating?

Reply to
Steve Ackman

hey Steve, et al...

you don't REALLY want my studio to go up in smoke do you???

over here they call that 'giving the evil eye' usually because of jealousy!!

hahaa

the transformer is a bit of a mystery...i couldn't even find out where it is made.. no label at all...and NO guarantee...uh oh...anyway, i'm sure it will be okay. here's what the label does say: Input 230V-50Hz cos (some symbol i can't duplicate here) = 0.5 Output AC 110V 300W.

and that's all she wrote! at this point in time, the classes are not a reality. if i can get enough business to keep me off the soup lines, i may not have to resort to that..at least not for the next two years. i've told my present boss (slave owner) that i'm planning to stick with the job (i'm a copy editor...yawn) until the end of 2008's annual report season...by then, i might have trained someone to take over and i can be 'on call' on a limited basis. we'll see what the future holds.

there's a reason why the earth is round...so that we don't always know what's beyond the horizon...

so, i'm playin' it by ear...

thanks everyone for your assistance... so far, so good.

ar.

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Reply to
arlene.carol

Um......while there has been some good info, are we maybe entering into a bit of a competitive "geek-off" here? Ya know, like my diode is bigger than your diode? I'm willing to bet my taped glasses and pocket protector that all the info Arlene (and any of the rest of us) needed here was in Moonraker's first post. But, hey...continue this "current" "electrifying", yet "grounded" conversation if you like. If the info is spewed out with "efficiency" then we will see who has the "real power" as opposed to the "apparent power". I'm sure it won't "phase" any of us and it may "induct" you into the NerdsRUs Hall of Fame! LOL (hugs, really...just thought this conversation was going on in a most funny [ha ha, not peculiar] manner. ; )

Lori

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FlameNwind

very funny...i think my fuse just short-circuited... i'm going to unplug for the rest of this evening (it's 9pm here) and watch The Sopranos...we've just started getting the series..i think these are re-runs from year one...but they are NEW TO ME.

have an electrifying evening ya'll.

a. ps...i think i've learned about everything i can possibly absorb about electricity, not to mention, all i WANT to know...

and with wiseguys, whoops, i mean experts like you around, do i really need to keep this stuff in my head?? thank you for all your help!! you guys are often great...seldom boring...and sometimes funny as hell.

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arlene.carol

Just wind me up baby!

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Glassman

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