Semi-OT - forum censorship

It is interesting how you only respect those that agree with what you have to say. Why is what moonraker has to say unreasonable? Is it that you don't like the message so you wish to kill the messenger? Your childish attempt at censorship is no different than what is being criticized in this thread.

Hey beaders from the newsgroup, look at it this way, maybe moonraker just needs a good beadgasm to get him to relax.

Oh and moonie, as far as kissing your ass, only one very tiny problem, you have to remove your head first.

also we have to wonder if he is a masterbeader or a..................I think you can follow that thread!

Jim Redden

Moonraker was not unreasonable. He was rude. If you're rude, sometimes people call attention to your behavior. I usually don't bother, since most people have a hard time admitting that their behavior could be anything but good, and everyone has a bad day now and then anyway. But it is NOT necessarily rude to complain about someone's behavior.

I saw nothing in particular that was objectionable about Mike's comment in view of the messages he was commenting on.

Mike Beede

Dear Jim, thanks for giving me a giggle first thing on a snowy April morning in UK.

I must say I smile every time I see WC written down.

In Uk it means water closet and is often found written on lavatory doors.

Then I get thinking of a childhood rhyme I know. Our sit-up-on used to be right at the top of the garden, a tuppenny bus ride away and a mile to run with crossed legs.

The rhyme is this.

Ole King Cole was a merry old soul, And a merry old soul was he. He called for a light in the middle of the night. To go to the WC. The light shone on the closet door, The candle had a fit And Ole King Cole fell down the hole And swallowed a lump of ****.

It is amazing how we can remember childish rhymes may years on. Shirley

In message , Jim Redden writes

I think you're missing the point.

They have every right to make a profit; in fact, I applaud the service they aim to provide, and have been considering giving them my business by advertising with them. Likwise, I have every right to take my cash business elsewhere if I so choose, and to state my feelings publicly in relevant forums. Since WC has a "glass" area and is not restricted to beads, and since I am a contributing subscriber to RCG, I thought I'd post my thoughts here, too. Anyone who doesn't like the way a company is doing business is free to complain; sometimes complaining even induces positive change in the company. It's called "market pressure".

You have every right to your opinions. You even have the right to tell me to shut up about mine, but there's no reason I should. You have the right to never use copper foil, and you have the right to tell other people that they shouldn't use it either, but that doesn't mean anyone is listening. Would you like it if they tell you to STFU and take your anti-foil whining back to the lead-came forum where it belongs?

Oh, I do run a free forum on my own server, BTW. It doesn't in any way compete with WC, nor is it one of the ones censored.

You seem to take pride > Oh, boo hoo.

Some people there are abrasive... and because there are so few posters overall, they are more noticeable. However, a nice little community is growing, including a few marblemakers, coldworkers and a blower or two.

I find it more friendly there, overall. Yes, people do complain about WC there... mostly because they aren't allowed to complain about WC on WC. Sometimes people have to present their ONE TRUE AND ONLY RIGHT WAY... well, yes, that's a bit pompous, but you have to laugh at it! There is one poster in particular who is abrasive, but for some reason, I must confess, I like him a great deal anyway. For that matter, I like everyone there, having got to know them.

Guido listens if you make suggestions. I like that.

The WC people who were banned were not banned in retaliation for the AGF mods being banned, but actually were banned because they came to AGF and started posting in outright abusive ways. Those posts were deleted... I disagree with Guido's decision to delete them AND to ban the WC mods, because I felt that the posts spoke for themselves. However, I felt he was well within his right to do so, just as I have always agreed that WC was within bounds of reason to delete abusive posts there.

BTW, Netiquette guy; you have a po> Okay, I have done some thinking about AGF specifically, and since it's been

YEAH, 'cause everyone knows, beads aren't made of glass! ;P

Also, it's my advertising money, and I'll give it to whomever I choose. MY rules. And I'll type whatever I want.

Clean me.

Mo> Then Kalera needs to keep her whining over on the bead forums and not in

ROFL!!!

:) I'm not sure which netiquette dude you're referring to - I must have him killfiled. :D

I've gone back to AGF and posted a few things - so far so good. :) Thanks for all the good info, Kalera. :)

I really should add smartass to my monicker.

Jim Redden, first deciple and worshiper of Shellie ( Red ) Carder. And all around smartass!

I bet moonie dribbles seed beads! ACK!

for some reason I keep getting the picture of a salad shooter in mind and beads shooting out of it.

And I have to say I am very sorry to any I offend and going so far off topic. there are alot of artist in here ( masters from my standpoint) who I get alot from on a dailey basis and are very open and helpfull, and then there is moonie.

Jim

I quit Wet Canvas a long time ago. It felt wrong.

Geez. It's "their" website/forum. They can do what they want, including making a friggin' profit, banning fools, and monitoring content!

One nice thing about the internet is that there is no shortage of domain names and web servers. You don't like somebody's website or forum? Start yer own with yer own precious "core values", already. Let's see how long YOU remain non-profit and altruistic.

You need to get a life if some forum has >you "really, really upset". It's a simple solution: Just don't go there any >more.

Thanks for your input, YOU asshole! :-D YOU never post here unless YOU wanna stir up shit, do YOU? Aw, shut up.

websites aren't doing favors - they are in business to make money.

Exceptionally important point there.

Sooz, I've been waiting days for those beautiful words from beautiful you!!!! hehehe

Polly

-- don't spook my groove... icq 13968113