what do you think of this advice about soldering iron tips?

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i found this on the ERSA website...

apparently it's not for stained glass production, but general info for
all soldering irons...

i've always been told to NEVER use flux core solder...but i think that
only refers to glass work..
does this info help to maintain the quality of your soldering iron's
tip?

what do you think?

there's a picture on their website as well:
http://www.sell-it-easy.de/shop_e/query.php?cp_tpl=114_ersadur.htm&cp_cat=129&cp_sid=386826c80777

Provided that the ERSADUR soldering tips are properly cared for, tip
life can be extended. The following steps should be taken: ERSADUR tips
should always be coated with solder. Without this coat, they become
passive and will no longer accept solder. In this case, the tip can be
reactivated with flux and solder. To do this, wrap flux core solder
around the soldering tip and heat the iron. In addition to this, the
hot tip should be cleaned regularly with a moist sponge. Spare sponges
are available in specialized trade.



arlene


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   Flux, or worse yet rosin core solder is nasty stuff and should be
avoided. We use the mildest water soluble flux we can get.  Unless your tip
is solid copper, it's only thinly plated. NEVER use anything caustic on it.
Once the plating is corroded the tip is garbage. Despite what any
manufacturer tells you, most original tips will never need to be replaced.
The iron will be dead before the tip goes. IMHO


--
JK Sinrod
www.sinrodstudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories



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Unless, of course, it is a 900F tip,  then all bets are off.  ;<)



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2006 15:16:10 -0700, snipped-for-privacy@debrady.com wrote:
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  Interesting hypothesis.  Could we get some actual
data to test it?

  Here's my off the top of the head test scenario:
One soldering iron.  Three tips.  Heat the iron til
the thermostat kicks off.  Feed solder onto the first
tip as fast as it'll melt for 60 seconds and let it
flow into a container.  Let the iron cool to room
temperature.  Do the same with the other two tips with
the same solder into identical containers.  Get the net
weight of each solder "casting."

  Laugh smugly as you prove your hypothesis right.

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Adapted from Yogi Berra's First Law of Thermodynamics.

Brady,  do you actually believe the shit you spew?  Or do you just get off
on getting your balls busted?




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   Maybe, no probably because you dip your tips in flux. I use only water,
and I have tips that last for years.

--

JK Sinrod
www.sinrodstudios.com
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Yeah...but you don't use your iron at supersonic speeds, either.



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"   Flux, or worse yet rosin core solder is nasty stuff and should be
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I clean and cool the tips with a dip of rosin and solder. Been doing
over 20 years, I've seen no problems.  Rosin was a common stained glass
flux. A number of windows  (100+years old) I've restored still had
rosin residue between the leads, with no bad effect.  The problem with
rosin, as I see it, is that it is hard to clean and a bit messy to work
with.

Vic


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    Oh I know it works, my issue is the god awful stench that burns the eyes
and lungs. It's not mistaken for anything else once you've smelled it from
an old window.  That stuff can't be doing your body any good.

--

JK Sinrod
www.sinrodstudios.com
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Glassman wrote:
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I love the smelland smoke  of rosin in the morning.


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glass
work
eyes
from

    Personally I love women, but hate fish....   ; )


--
JK Sinrod
www.sinrodstudios.com
www.MyConeyIslandMemories



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Please explain this...i get slammed for sending an OT message, but you
guys are allowed to trash a perfectly good subject line?

where's the justice?

arlene
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It ain't a perfect world.   Get over it.




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Well, for one, they aren't top posters,  they don't need my help, and
they're guys...that's a joke, on topic too!
and you call what I typed  "slammed"?      and what is this "allowed" stuff?

 nobody said you couldn't treat this place like your own private chat room,
as long as you stay on topic.  We take this shit serious. and yup, I don't
tiptoe around much, but I don't in real life either.

It's called "street justice", it's very selective.

If you take all this newsgroup stuff to heart, you might toughen up, it gets
real fun around the holidays when everybody is stressed!





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 i always top post and find it very difficult to follow  when messages are
interposed or i have to scroll down to the bottom. Being a dinosaur, when it
comes to netiquette , excuse the question but why is top posting so bad?m



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Michele, sweetheart, you can post wherever you want.  Grumpy old Java can
just get over it.  ;<)



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Moonraker wrote:

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Michelle? Oh <that> Michelle. Right. Post anywhere you want. Could you
post more pics? We can make an exception.

Jack

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it
Isn't it nicer to follow a conversation when you get the question before the
answer?

When you open the message body, the first thing that pops up is..... wait,
let me scroll down and read THAT so I will know what THIS pertains to....

and, it is netiquette, from a time when this WAS the internet, the last
bastion of OLD WAY of doing things, the good old boys club,  and mostly
because it is the proper way to do it, and if everyone did it, I wouldn't
have a damn thing to complain about!!



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Javahut wrote:
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I'll bottom post for you Java...just this once. :-) you can't change
the way people behave on the internet. You got a billion folks out
there from all over with all different ways of doing and saying
something. No one is right and no one is wrong . This netiquette thing
is old school and no matter that even I like it, it still old school
and is going by the way side. Just like posting in the group...you can
have the rules you want but there's no one here to enforce them. A few
years ago a bunch of hooligans got in here and took over for a week.
I've seen several newsgroups eventaully die because of that. Mr Google
doesn't care and won't do anything about it. Try as you might...things
are changing to the new school and it's just da way it is.

Scratch


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are
when
bad?m
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the
wait,
to....
wouldn't

NO! NO! Tell me it's not so!  What happened to "Tradition" , not sassing
your parents, cleaning your room and doing what your told because "I said
so, that's why young man"!
You mean there is anarchy everywhere!

It doesn't get much further off topic, guess I better quit before Arlene
starts whining again.



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