Dark Back and White Top?

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So, I've pieced my Bricks quilt top (thank you, Quiltville!) and it has
diagonal 3" WOW squares. The rest is very scrappy (and looks pretty nice, I
think!) For the back I have some royal blue yardage with 4" chartreuse frogs
(playing drums and guitars, if that matters ;-) which the recipient would
love. Or would she?

I plan to use W&N or some equally thin batting and MQ free motion squiggles.
If that's on the back, will the white squares look okay? I know it's not a
curtain, so light won't be shining through it, but still....Would you use
such a contrasting back? Or should I rootle around for medium or light
scraps for the back?

TIA

Dogmom



Re: Dark Back and White Top?
I think frogs playing drums and guitars is an excellent choice.  Yes, it
could become the preferred side, happens to me often and I just don't take
it personally.  However - you knew this was coming - sounding like a broken
record - make a test square of your backing, batting, WOW and the thread you
plan to use for the free motion squiggles.  The sample doesn't have to be
life size; just a 6" square should give you a view of 'see through' or 'just
fine'.  Polly

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Re: Dark Back and White Top?
Oh Polly, thank you. Here's my question: how fussy should I be about
colors/designs showing through? How fussy are you? I never used anything but
*really* light backings (which meant I bought them, because my energetic
stash doesn't include plain pastels) until a few months ago when I read here
that since light doesn't shine through, what difference does it make?

let's see....TANQP, so I'm my own policeperson. Guess I'm wondering how
other cops do it, and you're a prime one! I mean, you gotta do it right so
the 'gators don't get mad, yes?....

TIA

Dogmom

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Re: Dark Back and White Top?
Using Warm and White batting (the natural might shadow the white fabrics
just a bit) is usually enough to keep a dark back from showing through
to the light squares.  If it were a poly batt, that is a different story.
I have used dark backs with light tops and had no problems.  Do be sure
to check the backing fabric for bleeding/running/staining other fabrics
though. <G>

[The cotton batts tend to be fairly dense and will keep the back and
front separate enough to not shadow through.  That is what one of my
quilting instructors said at one point.

Have fun,
Pati, in Phx

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Re: Dark Back and White Top?
I confess.  I don't buy my backings.  There's a beloved friend and World
Class shopper who finds them and gives them to me for the children's shelter
quilts.  There have been a few times that I attempted a dark bobbin for a
light top.  I never discovered how to adjust the SM so I didn't get teeny
pin dots on the top where the dark bobbin thread pulled up just barely at
each stitch.  No help from the gators.  If warming up appeals to those guys,
they much prefer basking on the Interstate highways.  Such fun . . . and
warms the belly.  Polly


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Re: Dark Back and White Top?
if the top thread is pulling the bobbin thread up too far its cuz the top
tension is too tight?
if that is as loose as it goes, then ya need to tighten up the bobbin just a
wee bit.
what kind of machine?
i'm sure someone here can tell ya exactly how to do it on your machine.

i've an old singer, circa late 70s.
the bobbin sits flat not on its side.
there is a wee tiny screwhead at about 10 o'clock on the outside of the
bobbincase.
gawd, not done it in so long now i cant recall which way to turn it
but its only a 1/4 turn, clockwise i think??
anyone know for sure?
we can probly find pix of how to do it on your machine online somewhere...
soon as ya tell us what machine it is.
fwiw,
jeanne
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Vote B'fly for President '08
san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz
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Re: Dark Back and White Top?
I just finished a wallhanging last night with black in the bobbin and white
on top.  I loosened the top tension a great deal, but didn't have to fool
with the bobbin.  No white on the back and no black on the top.  I'm a hapy
camper!  I have a drop in bobbin.
  Jeanne, for changing bobbin tension, remember--lefty loosey, righty
tighty.  All bobbins use this formula.
Gen


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Re: Dark Back and White Top?
rofl, Gen,
now i'll have to get a screwdriver out and try it on a regular screw
somewhere to check it is still the same downunder.
we do so many things in the reverse direction....light switches down is on,
up is off.... water goes down the sink/toilet hole in the reverse direction,
tho to be fair that is natures fault not chosen by the people...drive'n on
the left side of the road except for overseas tourists who sometimes forget
cuz they're look'n at the lovely scenery out in the country and have head
ons coming round the bend, oh dear...
anyhow i'll have to check which is which. i did buy my machine down here so
for all i know the screws go the other way, argh, silly really, oh well. tis
a good way to remember it tho...lefty loosen, righty tighten. i hope i can
remember when i actually need to do it. a bit like stalactites and
stalacmites. sure tights go up but they also go down so it confuddles me
when i need to know, lol. <shrug>

now where'd ya put pix of your new wall hanging?
did you ever put up pix of that gooooooooorgeous autumn jacket you were
working on when i was there?
omg, that was sooooooo beautiful.
if ya dont have pix up, tis time to get a pix of ya in it and put it up for
us all to drool over. :)
groggy in the south pacific (still early here),
jeanne
--
Vote B'fly for President '08
san-fran at ihug dot co dot nz
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Re: Dark Back and White Top?
I've had exactly the same problem with bobbins. Tried adjusting the bobbin
tension, everything--no success. Finally went to--either Bernina, or the
LQS, can't remember but whoever I asked was a *real* pro--and they admitted
that they could never get the thread not to do what you're describing,
either, so they always use the same color thread in both top and bottom.
Made me feel better, in a sad sort of way.

Dogmom
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Re: Dark Back and White Top? And dark thread showing on top
A suggestion for setting the machine for dark-light thread combo.  Set
top tension to very,very loose. On a sample sandwich, same light and
dark fabrics, same batting, stitch. You should see large dots of top
thread on back.  Start gradually tightening tension, a tiny bit at a
time.  Check back frequently.  When top thread no longer shows, but
barely there, you should still not see back thread on top.  If you do,
back top tension back a half of what you had been moving it. Keep on
until the top doesn't show any back thread.
You may still have small show through of top to back, but----
Or make the light thread be the one that shows as tiny dots. Us a pigma
pen on the light spots that are really, really bad. <G>
Generally, if it is just a tiny dot, it will go away in the wash. <G>
yes even thread will shrink a bit, especially the one that has been
under the greatest tension, I have found. At least enough to pull those
tiny dots through.

Good luck,
Pati, in Phx

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Re: Dark Back and White Top? And dark thread showing on top
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extremely valuable information. Big ol' hugs and chocolate flower bouquets to
all of you!

Sunny


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Re: Dark Back and White Top? And dark thread showing on top
I also find that wayward thread dots vanish in the wash. Or at least, the
quiilt develops enough texture that they can't be seen.
Roberta in D

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