How binding?

I'm going to give the fusible thread in the bobbin a try. I'm thinking of doing that first run with fusible in the bobbin (which won't show) with a long wide zig zag. Might give the area more fusible coverage. Might not. Polly

"Pati, in Phx" I have done bindings a lot of different ways. When I was doing samples, of pre-quilted crib panels, for House of Fabrics, I usually used ready to use binding (Wrights). Or I used premade ruffled binding. It went on in one go, usually with a decorative stitch (and I rounded the corners of the quilts so I didn't have to miter them. Needed to be fast.) Most of the time I use a double, "French" binding. Have used it on clothing for years, all by machine, so sometimes do it all by machine on quilts too. But I also enjoy the hand sewing part of the binding second side. However, I don't pin, or use clips or anything. That seems to just add to the work. When I do the machine stitching of the binding (first side) I pin a start point, with a tail. Quickly check the binding around the quilt to 1. make sure the binding is long enough. and, 2. be sure that I don't end up with a binding seam at a corner. (every time I forget to check it seems that I end up with a seam at the corner. which is a royal pain to deal with.) Discovered a long time ago that mitered binding corners are fairly easy to do, and look great. Then I hand sew the binding to the back, by turning and holding a bit at a time. No pins, clips or other. Don't really understand why you need to. (But that is me.... I understand that others have different ways they are comfortable with. But I always get stuck with pins. In most uncomfortable places usually.)

Sometimes I machine the second side down. That is when I will cut the binding a bit wider, to make sure the back side easily covers the seam line. If I am really trying to be good I try to remember to put fusible thread in the bobbin when I sew the binding to the first side. Then I can press the binding over the seam line , then stitch in the ditch of the binding seam and catch the back side of the binding cleanly. Works very well. Sometimes I just use a decorative stitch and sew right through the binding. On occasion I have used a blanket stitch, with the forward stitches almost in the ditch and the perpendicular into the binding.... can give a great look, especially if the quilt has blanket stitch applique. Or you want to add a color to the binding or something.

I have also used glue stick to hold bindings on the back.....usually because I need to get the quilt up for a class sample and don't have time to finish it properly, but also to machine stitch the back down when I forget to put fusible thread in the machine.

As for machine binding being looked down upon..... I have a quilt made by my great-great-great(?) grandmother. We've dated to the late

1800's, partly because the binding is the backing turned to the front and machine stitched down. That was one place they could use a machine and be sure that it showed. Which was a way of demonstrating that they had a machine to use. (the quilt is hand pieced, hand quilted, but the backing seam and the binding is done by machine.) So doing bindings by machine could be considered a "tribute" to our ancestors.

BTW, I usually use straight grain binding, often lengthwise grain if I am doing binding the same a borders and cutting borders on lengthwise grain. Fewer seams that way. The only times I use bias binding is for curved edges, or decorative use of a stripe/plaid. And I have started looking for diagonally striped fabrics to use for bindings, because I can get the bias stripe look, but use straight grain binding.

As to how, If I am handsewing the binding down, the quilt is usually in my lap, over my legs. Not a great way to do things here in the summer. sigh. One reason I tend to do smaller quilts.

Any way you do it, have fun, Pati, in Phx

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Polly Esther
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I always make bias binding -- that is, since maybe 1990. Before that I usually rolled the backing around the front and stitched it down by machine.

The thing is -- if the quilt lives where *you* see it, and it gets used, you discover that straight binding fail ungracefully over time. A single broken/worn thread along the outside crease and the next thing the whole thing separates in two.

My bias bindings may break a thread, but because bias puts so many different threads along the outside edge it still stays strong.

No one ever talks about this these days. It doesn't matter if it's a wall quilt, but if it's really being used by people every day, you'll definitely get this problem with a straight binding.

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susan k

Howdy!

YourMileageMayVary.

I've been using straight binding, the length of the fabric, for 30+ yrs, and the quilts I still have (used regularly) are doing just fine along the binding. I "definitely" haven't had a problem w/ it, so far. ;-)

Rolling the backing around to the front for binding isn't the same as double-fold, straight-of-grain binding.

There have been many, many discussions here about binding; we're "bound" to talk about it at RCTQ. ;->

R/Sandy -spotted a quilt > I always make bias binding -- that is, since maybe 1990. Before that

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Sandy Ellison

This hasn't been my experience at all. A quilt I made 15 years ago is still being used on my sons bed and the binding is perfectly fine.

Maybe I'm just not so thread perfect that one thread runs in a perfectly straight line down the fold :-)

My straight of grain bindings are still double (french fold), perhaps that is the difference? Are your falling apart ones single thickness?

marcella

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Marcella Peek

I'd like to hear from folks that have quilts that fail in one way or another. Just what has happened? There seem to be a lot of stories about poly threads ripping cotton fabrics, the bias vs. straight of grain binding and other horrors. I have seen few non vintage quilts that have truly failed. Sun eaten maybe, dog or cat destroyed too but not just worn. Even baby quilts around here didn't wear beyond use. Anyone have some real experience with fabric wear? I only use bias binding for curves or for design purposes. Double fold seem to wear fine. BTW, I have a suspicion your threads do run pretty straight Marcella. ; ) Taria

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The only real "fail" I have seen was at quilt guild. Two examples from my memory banks.

A member had hand quilted a quilt with silk thread. She then washed it with oxy clean (an enzyme cleaner) to get rid of the markings and all the silk thread was eaten away. She got an unquilted quilt out of the wash.

It was really, really, really sad.

The other one was a quilt made with hand dyed fabrics. The maker did not test them for color fastness or extra dye or whatever. She just made a beautiful quilt. When she washed it the red dye tinted the background and wouldn't come out. She had brought that quilt to show and tell to warn us to test for colorfast dyes!

Other than that I've only seen wear and tear type things happen to quilts that get used. Those seem quite reasonable to me.

marcella

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Joanna

I have several that have pieces that have just plain worn out. I made a couple polyester double knit quilts with flannel backs for my kids 30 years ago or so, and I've had to replace the flannel backs. Curt's grandmother gave us a nice cotton pieced quilt for a wedding gift 42 years ago. We've used it on our bed a lot. A couple of the pieces are tearing from wear. She turned the back to the front and stitched it down instead of binding it, and the edges are showing some wear. But none of that is more than ordinary wear and tear.

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Julia in MN

I had some stitching failure. Somehow - I honestly have no idea how - but somehow a spool of nylon thread got in here. An iron set on the hottest setting can melt nylon. I'd worked very carefully to get all the points pretty and turning in the right direction. The piecing just fell apart. That's a lesson I won't forget. Polly

"Julia in MN" I have several that have pieces that have just plain worn out. I made a

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Polly Esther

I've not really had a quilt fail per se, but I do have a very old UFO that due to lack of proper planning is still a UFO. The blocks came from a block exchange, and they are fabulous. I put them together with a sashing method found in a quilting magazine--can't remember which one, it's been so long ago--that also, imo, looks great. So what's the problem? It needs borders to be used on a bed, and I didn't buy enough of the sashing fabric to use in the border to draw the quilt together. I keep trying out different fabrics for possible borders, but my brain wants the sashing fabric I've already used. Consequently, it continues to be undone. I think I need to suck it up and just leave it large throw size. Until I come to terms with it, this is a failed quilt imo. What did I learn? Plan the whole project in advance!

Best regards, Michelle in NV

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Michelle C

The current failing quilt at my house is Ash's Snail Trail quilt. His other mom picked out a a bunch of fabric from the calico wall at TSWLTH for it. Every last scrap of those calicos is badly faded and most are fraying. The old curtains I cut up for binding are holding up better! It is a scrappy quilt, so the lesser quality fabrics really jump out at you. To be fair, that quilt has seen some _serious_ use. Boy loves his bedding and it is likely to be a tent one day, a play mat the next, and who knows what after that. He even sleeps under it.

Oh Gee, I guess I must make him another quilt. O what a hardship. LOL

NightMist

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NightMist

One of the vary first (if not the first) quilts I made was a crib quilt. I'm pretty sure I made it about about 30 years ago and it was for DH's cousin's first baby. It was 10" whole cloth blocks of gingham in small, med. & large checks, alternated -- 4 across and 5 or 6 down. The backing was a solid and was brought to the front, folded over and sewn down to form a border. The fabrics were all likely poly cotton and I *know* I used poly batting. I zig zagged along the seam lines and then tied the center areas of the blocks -- 5 ties to a block. The niece still has the shreds of that quilt. It was used and washed and used and washed until it was not much more than rags. She even put the bits and pieces into a pillow slip to take to college with her so that she could still use it. Talk about well loved. So -- I don't know as to how this quilt ever really "failed" but it certainly did wear out within 18 years of constant use.

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We all make mistakes and learn from them. AFAIK all my (properly-made) quilts are still alive and well. I have one from my great-grandma, made around 1935-40, a GFG. Used and washed a lot. Bias binding, and it's frayed along the edge. Only a single fold. The backing is a bit fragile too, but the top has held up well. 1-inch hexagons, quilted around each one. I'm sure the intensive quilting helped keep the top in good shape!

My worst mistakes, at the beginning of my quilting adventure, were to mix incompatible fabrics. Cured me of any temptation to mix in poly blends! (Silk, cotton and linen play well together, as long as you pay attention to the fabric weight. Wool in the top is only for the foolhardy if you ever plan to wash!) Of course anything goes if you only plan to hang it on the wall.

DH had a lovely cott>I second this I would like to hear personal experience. I've only been

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Roberta

Just thought of a quilt I saw recently, belongs to a young woman about the age of my DDs, and her grandmama made it for her ca 1980. She asked me about the best way to repair damage to the surface.

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Roberta

Taria, I've had one quilt "fail", but it wasn't the binding at all. It was the fact that I used grossly inferior fabric (I didn't know any better at the time, and I didn't have access to the good stuff then, anyway), which has simply shredded over time. The funny thing is that this quilt didn't even get put on a bed until ten years after it was made, but within a couple of years after that it was ruined. Very sad, since it was all hand quilted (the quilting is holding up fine). :S

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Sandy

Failed quilts? Just one, so far. I had just "the perfect blue" for my little cousin's dolphin quilt, although I thought it seemed a little thin. I prewashed it, no problem. Presented her with the quilt, she loved it. First time it was washed, "the perfect blue" had shredded on the seam in a dozen or more places. What a nightmare to repair!!

I eventually did a thick, wide zigzag all around every piece of "the perfect blue" and told her it was now a large wall hanging and not to be used every day to get dirty.

It was cotton thread, no poly.

Blue has always been my least favorite color, and this experience didn't help any.

Denise

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Denise in NH

My binding were single thicknesses, but I can't see how that would change things; seems like the outer layer would still fail the way mine have. Actually, 15 years is about the minimum at which I've seen this happen. It's possible that the cotton quality is just as responsible as the grain; most of my failing ones were before I was buying upscale quilters' cotton.

BTW -- I've always wondered, just exactly what *is* the purpose of making a binding double?

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susan k

I think it's easier to apply. It is also supposed to be more durable. It does make a firmer thicker edge, and I like the appearance of that.

Julia in MN

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Julia in MN

I didn't see the original post (am I not receiving all posts?) but wanted to add my story about a failed quilt. I made three identical quilts as wedding gifts for my son's friends. One bride brought hers to me a year later and asked if I could help her repair it. She apologized that her cat must have torn it. After examining the problem I saw that all holes were in the same red fabric. I cut out the red fabric and appliqued a new piece over the hole in such a way it wasn't noticeable. Later I contacted the other two brides and each reported a few small holes. The same red fabric had failed on all three quilts. At least I knew that the quilts were being used. This experience has made me check my fabrics more carefully before I put them in a quilt. Since the problem red was from my stash I had no idea where it had been purchased.

Susan

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