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i have 10  6" 9-patch blocks and 24  6" 4 patch blocks. i would like
to use as many of these blocks as i can in one quilt top but can't
figure out a pleasing layout.  the nine-patches are in 2 fabrics and
the 4 patches are in 2 different but coordinating fabrics. i have
leftover fabric from the 9-patches but not from the 4-patches. any
suggestions? thanks in advance

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Hi... Um... Lady, I guess...

This might be a process requiring more information - hard to tell at
this point.
Are these blocks the basic 4 & 9 patch (exactly 4 square patches & 9
square patches) or are they fancier designs involving more pieces,
triangles, strips, etc.?  And do you have enough of the leftover
fabric to make at least 2 more 9-patch squares?  Here's why:

You have a total of 34 six-inch squares, which doesn't divide evenly
into a single rectangle (except for a strip 2 x 17 squares) so the
most efficient (smallest perimeter) quilt top you could make would be
30 squares (30"+ x 36"+).  If you had 36 squares, you could make a
36"+ x 36"+ top (the "+"s being the borders).

While you're figuring that out, I'll play with some layouts using
basic 4 & 9 patch using all 36 squares (thinking positively).

Oh, the puzzle... THE PUZZLE...

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On Apr 20, 8:12=A0pm, snipped-for-privacy@rochester.rr.com wrote:
These blocks are basic. I do not have enough fabric leftover for 2
more blocks or enough to use for setting triangles for an on-point
layout. I  only have  leftover green stripe and could make 2 6" plain
old one-patches with enough leftover for a thin border. The 9 patches
are green stripe/pink florals made from 5 green squares, 4 pink
squares. The 4-patches are a different, darker flora and a solid pink.
I was trying to somehow make a chain effect on paper and filled up my
waste basket in the effort. So I checked in to RCTQ for help. These
were given to me as extras. I had no choice in fabric or number of
blocks but they are nice and I'd like to use them together . . . if
mathematically possible. I was actually thinking 5 x 7 blocks, with a
plain one in the middle, bit I couldn't make the chains works. Maybe I
should stop thinking about chains . . . .
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On Apr 21, 1:07=A0am, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:
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Thanks, that actually helps a lot.  No promises, but I'll play around
with it and see what I can do.

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Oh yeah... and do you have any fabric you could use to fill in if you
went with an offset block or on-point layout?

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Now that I've played around for a bit, I guess it would also be
helpful to have a rough idea of the colors involved.  Is there any way
you could upload a picture or scan of one of each of the squares?

Sorry for all the addenda - I'm a bit new at doing it this way - don't
even know what I don't know yet (but my wife/quiltmaker has me do this
kind of thing all the time - *she* says I have a talent for it...)

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On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:44:43 -0700 (PDT), " snipped-for-privacy@aol.com"

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You are either going to have to add fabric or discard some blocks.

If you want to chain them against a background you could do that, but
it still won't come out evenly in a square or rectangle.

I would look at doing a pattern in a pattern.  Sort out what shape you
can make with the blocks you have that is pleaseing to your eye, and
then fill in around or inside them with other blocks or background
fabric.
Or you could just match the colors in the blocks you have as closely
as you can, and then make up enough to to do the chain you had in
mind. If you mix up the old and new blocks it will appear to be a
scrappy color planned quilt.

NightMist
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Nothing has been the same since that house fell on my sister.

Re: need help with quilt layout
Because 4-patch and 9-patch do not go together readily, how about this
for an idea:

If you use 30 blocks, you could make a 5 x 6 layout.  You could use the
remaining four on the back.

If you use one 'suitable' contrasting or co-ordinating block in the
centre, you could make a 5 x 7 layout. (You could piece this in, for
example, quarter square triangles, or strips if you only have small
amounts of fabric, to emphasis the difference, if you wanted to).

However, I would not try to make a pattern - tempting as it is.  I would
make a row by row quilt:

Top row - five of the 4-patches
1.5" (or so) sashing
then five or six rows of the 9-patches, separated by the same sashing.
The centre block of the centre row, in the 5 x 7 layout, could be your
single unmatching block.

A simple 3" border around the whole lot, and there you are.

It is difficult to step away and look at things differently, when you
have been considering this sort of thing for any length of time!

Hope it works out.
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Best Regards
pat on the hill

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Lowest row, the rest of the 4-patches.  Sorry!
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pat on the hill

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This looks really pretty Pat. I did it in EQ6 and put a pieced block
from the 'Library' (Mosaic No 4) as the central one using the colours of
the 9 patch. (It is a sort of crisscross design block), Came out as 7
rows altogether with the top and bottom using the 9 patch.

The finished size was 36" x 56.75.

In fact its so pretty I might even do one myself!

Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~uk
http://community.webshots.com/user/sallyswin



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Clever you!!
I doubt I would get away from the computer at all, if I had EQ6 to play
with!!  I *have* to steer clear of such devices >g<

Thanks for trying it out.  I have a row by row quilt and it looks really
nice; the blocks for each row are different on mine, but there is no
need for that.

Yes, splitting the 9-patches with the 4-patch rows would have been a
better idea.  Thanks for that - I was in a bit of a rush.
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pat on the hill

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Wow, you folks are fast!  I had to catch a few hours of sleep, so I'm
just getting going.
(((Patti))), I did find a pattern idea in a 5 x 7 layout that may have
some merit.
Use the blank center block as you described, then make a cross using
the 10 nine-patches, and fill in the quarters with the 4-patches.
This gives some leeway in making patterns in those "corners".

(((WholeyLady))), I can make a jpg out of the EQ6 design.  Would it be
alright to e-mail it to you at AOL?

Doc Smith

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Ah well, not really fast as I am up many hours before you (across the
pond!).  I obviously pounced on it too quickly, though, as I got the
9-patches and the 4-patches numerically the wrong way round!
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pat on the hill

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Pat in the house on the hill on the isle across the pond...  isn't
that a kids' song?  :-)

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Could well be!
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pat on the hill

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 yes, please: snipped-for-privacy@aol.com with 'quilt' in the subject to avoid
spam filters
i visit this group from time to time when i need advice and i have
some gorgeous quilts based on the visions of the quilters here. thank
you all!
w


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On Apr 21, 11:32=A0am, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:
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Seems kinda moot now.

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On Apr 21, 6:19=A0pm, snipped-for-privacy@rochester.rr.com wrote:
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yeh, huh . . . . . i get the distinct impression some of us on this
group do not sleep, eat, or work for a living. did you come up with
something different? i can always make another quilt . . . . . .

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On Apr 21, 10:59=A0pm, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:
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I had a file of 9 different quilts from the info. you supplied, but
while I was waiting for permission to send them to you, you went ahead
and finished it based on the first suggestion Patti offered.  If I had
realized you were in that much of a hurry, I wouldn't have taken a
nap.  After I saw that you had finished the top, there was no point in
my mailing what I had, so I deleted the file.  You were insistant on
having no material for any more squares, so how was I to know?

Doc Smith

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On Apr 21, 10:18=A0pm, snipped-for-privacy@rochester.rr.com wrote:
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hehehehehehehe  i wasn't in a hurry but a friend dropped by and we
read the RTCQ articles and put the blocks on the design board AND the
rest is history. we did this all before i got out of my nightgown ;-O
(truly!)   we did this, too,  Before the eq6 picture was posted, and
when i saw It, i wanted to make Another quilt.
have you been introduced to 'stash'?
i didn't have anymore material for Those blocks but i (and every other
quilter on this newsgroup) has enough fabric to stock a small quilt
shop. and with modern technology (rotary cutter) and strip piecing, i
could make 10 Other 9 patches and 24 More 4 Patches before dinner and
have another quilt top pieced (following one of Your 9 designs) before
bedtime. never ever give up . . . . . . .  on this group, nothing is
moot and it never sleeps
england posted before you got up in the morning. you posted from ny
before i got up in the morning (calif). hawaii posted while i was
making my quilt and australia missed all the fun but Now knows i eat
low carb chocolate and have 3 cats.    you'll catch on.

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