OT very basic computer question

1l 0O

OK you got me! I had to type them side by side just to see. And of course you are right. I knew it but still had to actually look again.

We have this problem with our postal code up here T0M 0R0 . For those of us that know the system we can figure that it is letter-number-letter number-letter-number. When we are sending our address to someone outside Canada we have started adding (The postal code has zero's not O's) Apparently it makes a big difference to computers.

I also learned to type when the L was used as a l (one).

Sorry, no helpful suggestion.

Marilyn in Alberta, Canada

(who is glad that we don't have to reach for the carriage return anymore!)

Polly,

If you can change the font to ALL CAPS, you may be able to determine the difference between a 1 (one) and an L (the letter) a lot more clearly. The opposite may be true of the number 0 (zero). If you lower case for o's, you can see the difference fairly easily as well.

I hope that helps.

Rick Boesen Olivet, Michigan

You did the only sens1ble thing. The 0ther way to do !t would be to use a hex dump utility.

1t was crazy f0r the fIrm issulng the 1icense number tO d0 1t that way. WHY COULDN'T THEY MAKE ALL THE LETTERS UPPER CASE? (and leave out all the ohs and zeroes).

==== j a c k at c a m p i n . m e . u k === ==== Jack Campin, 11 Third St, Newtongrange EH22 4PU, Scotland == mob 07800 739 557 CD-ROMs and free stuff: Scottish music, food intolerance, and Mac logic fonts

Thankx for the Lol of the day

BUtteRFly

Thank you B'fly for carrying Jack's message with your laugh. Jack isn't on my block sender's list but still my computer thinks he's dangerous. It is probably right. Polly

"Butterflywings" Thankx for the Lol of the day

The difference between a lowercase L and the numeral 1 is very slight in most cases; perhaps a phone call to the place that issued the number is the only answer? As for letter O and numeral 0, usually the former is much "rounder" than the latter. Sometimes it's just a guessing game. :( l 1 0 O

0 or O, 1 or l, not to forget | could also be a one in some cases. the | on my keyboard is on the righ above the enter key using the shift key to get the upper thing on the key. tis also a \ on that key. after all the replys so far, i'm still wondering what was used for the other numbers if there was no one on the keyboard. did you have other numbers? i learned to type back in the early sixties (yes tis official i am now older than dirt and feel it more days than not) and i dont recall not having a one on the keyboard. confuddled in the s0uth pacific, j. : /

"Sandy" The difference between a lowercase L and the numeral 1 is very slight in most cases; perhaps a phone call to the place that issued the number is the only answer? As for letter O and numeral 0, usually the former is much "rounder" than the latter. Sometimes it's just a guessing game. :( l 1 0 O

Sandy,

I remember learning to type on a manual Royal typewriter in the 80s. It did not have a "one" and we had to use the lower-case L. The other numbers were where they belong. We did not have an exclamation point as it was an apostrophe with a period under it. Typing no paper made for some great imagination.

Regards,

Rick Boesen Olivet, Michigan

Jeanne,

Back in the days when there was no 1 and you used lower case L was when we were typing on typewriters - not keyboards! Keyboards weren't even in the vocabulary then except for the keyboard on my piano!!!!!

Donna in SW Idaho

hey, i'm old enough. i remember learning to type on old black typewriters back in early 60's. i just dont recall there not being a 1 on the top row of numbers. that said, there is a lot of things i dont remember, lol. then there are a few things i wish i didnt remember. : / oh well, j.

"Donna in Idaho" wrote... Jeanne, Back in the days when there was no 1 and you used lower case L was when we were typing on typewriters - not keyboards! Keyboards weren't even in the vocabulary then except for the keyboard on my piano!!!!! Donna in SW Idaho

"jeanne-nzlstar*" wrote...

You really learned to type in your early 60's??? *snicker* *snicker**

Oh, you must have meant the 1960's? Like, the last century??

Judie

I had to call for service on my refrigerator a few days ago, and needed to give the serial number. It is located just inside the door, in a spot not to difficult to see with my bifocals if I got on my knees. Some of the info was in a bold font that was easy to read, but the serial number was so small I could not read it even when I got my glasses in focus. Had to get the magnifying glass to read the number, then was informed the O or 0 was probably a Q.

I bought a new carpet cleaner a few days ago. It is very easy to use, but you wouldn't know it by reading the manual. The instructions are unclear, and the accompanying diagrams are very small and not much help. There are diagrams next to text, but the text refers to a diagram on the next page, which is very confusing. Worst of all, the print is very light, appears grey instead of black on the page.

smarty pants, Judie. THE early 60s then, is that correct grammer. there is just no stop'n some people. hrmph!! now get back to quilting unless you've finished already in which case we want to see some pix of that. j.

"Judie in Penfield NY" wrote... You really learned to type in your early 60's??? *snicker* *snicker** Oh, you must have meant the 1960's? Like, the last century?? Judie

jeanne-nzlstar* wrote:

Q is for Quilting so it is a good letter, i guess the tail got lost.

as for that manual, this is what comes of out-sourcing to foreign countrys where english is not first or any of the official languages so whoever writes, edits and publishes the manuals hasnt a clue what they say. all i can do is commiserate with ya. :) so much for RTFM, eh. j.

"Linda" wrote... I had to call for service on my refrigerator a few days ago, and needed to give the serial number. It is located just inside the door, in a spot not to difficult to see with my bifocals if I got on my knees. Some of the info was in a bold font that was easy to read, but the serial number was so small I could not read it even when I got my glasses in focus. Had to get the magnifying glass to read the number, then was informed the O or 0 was probably a Q.

I bought a new carpet cleaner a few days ago. It is very easy to use, but you wouldn't know it by reading the manual. The instructions are unclear, and the accompanying diagrams are very small and not much help. There are diagrams next to text, but the text refers to a diagram on the next page, which is very confusing. Worst of all, the print is very light, appears grey instead of black on the page.

Rick, it was Jeanne who couldn't remember. I clearly remember using a lowercase L for the numeral 1. However, there was an exclamation point on my typewriters, and I learned to type in the late 60's, then worked my way through college as a secretary, typing every day. Gosh, I did love that IBM Selectric!

The first thing we were taught in our typing class was how to take the typewriter apart and clean it. I think what we used was carbon tetrachloride - which probably accounts for the brain damage to the most of us. The next thing was to disassemble the typist chair if need be to have it set properly for posture acceptable to our instructor. To my delight, I was in a class that, except for me, was composed entirely of the school's football team. All of us knew that Miss Addie was going to teach us to type or kill us. She didn't care which or who. We learned. Polly

"Sandy" Rick, it was Jeanne who couldn't remember. I clearly remember using

I can never understand manuals that give only pictures. Had a disposable panaramic camera once that I never did understand - so I disposed of it!

Sally at the Seaside~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~uk

L> I had to call for service on my refrigerator a few days ago, and needed to

Nay, Jeanne. You are not the oldest. . . but Judie got'cha good, didn't she? Polly

"jeanne-nzlstar*" smarty pants, Judie.

Jeanne, I was just taking a break and here I am again on yet another break. This quilting stuff can be sort of *intense* sometimes, y'know?

I'm adjusting to the new darning foot and it's working just fine. Now I can try to concentrate on the quilting and not the machinery. Haven't done the sashing yet but finished with the outer border and working on the blocks. Pictures coming of my latest mistake but henceforth we will be calling that a design feature.

Judie