VENT: Oooh, Bargains! Good Buys! Good Deals! - NOT!

I see a lot of these kinds of posts on this group (and one sees them on any kind of craft/hobby discussion group) - that's ok; I'm not ranting about any specific post/thread in particular...

It's just that (and I know I'm likely preaching to a choir here, but it seems to me to be a sermon worth revisiting from time to time...) if there's anything a lifetime of crafting & craftsmanship has taught me, it's the tired old worn out (like me) adage that, "You get what you pay for." Bargains aren't always bargains, and when something looks or sounds too good to be true or miss out on, IMHOAE, it probably/usually is.

Just an example - in just the past couple days there was a thread thread (thread about thread) about some deal on thread, followed by several comments by people who said that they had mucho problems with said brand of thread messing up/snarling/fuzzing/breaking/what-have- you... What good is getting a boatload of thread at a 75% discount if you wind up throwing the whole batch out or (worse?) donating it to (dumping it on) some other poor unsuspecting slob? Good intentions aside, sometimes it's questionable if one is *really* doing a service by doing so. Even most charities I know of throw away "junk" donated to them; some may politely accept it to spare feelings/not seem ungrateful and THEN toss it, but it's not worth their hassling with it either...

I know that DW absolutely refuses to buy fabric at a particular well- known international craft superstore chain, (unless she absolutely cannot get what she wants *anyplace* else, local or online) because the thread count is less and the material is inevitably of poorer quality and more difficult to work with than what she pays more for at a(ny) local dedicated "quilt shop".

No matter what kind of project I'm working on, for myself or for others, I have learned many times over that investing in the best quality tools & materials is SO worth it not only to the finished product, but to working with them as well. It's just no fun, and I can't see the point in, being frustrated at every step and turn along the way. ESPECIALLY with tools/hard goods, because they are forever, and one has to use them over and over. There's little worse than trying to work with a scissors, or machine, or whatever, that you just can't stand - no matter the reason. I'm sure the "professionals" out there are in total agreement - we've all been there.

If the retort is economics, then I say wait until they change, or scale down the project, or find another one within means, or if your self-respect can handle it, ask for a little help - GOOD help.

Maybe... Hopefully... the newbs/novices may get something from this.

Okay, I guess I'm done now. I feel like there's something I'm forgetting, but that's not unusual for me - I'll blame it on a senior moment... Have at, or chew me up, or whatever...

Doc Smith

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Dr.Smith
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Bravo! Well Said! {{{{applause}}}} i totally agree!

amy in CNY

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amy in CNY

You've never seen these kinds of posts from Nann, thank you very much.

And we really, REALLY don't need a sermon from you.

Thanks anyway, Cindy

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teleflora

Doc, you've hit on much truth. No question, you get what you pay for. Name brands are more expensive for a reason. But when some online store has Fossil Ferns or Hoffman Batiks for $5 a yard, I want to know about it.

Sunny

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onetexsun

How we wish 'you get what you pay for' was still true. You can pay for a very fine iron and get one that has the brand name on it but, in truth, is made at the Play-Dough factory somewhere out here in the swamp. You can pay for a very fine SM and get one that will make you cry. I enjoy (and need) to shop for bargains and welcome any message of someone else's finds. Someone here showed us Aurifil for $ 4.50 instead of $ 9.50. You have to accept colors like mush piccalilli but that does fine for piecing. Pass the M & Ms over my way, would you? Polly

"onetexsun"

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Polly Esther

You make an excellent point, Polly, but I wasn't speaking in terms of "brand names"; I was talking about quality of goods, which can be wherever you find it. Maybe that's what I had forgotten. I also wasn't putting anything in terms of absolutes; I never do.

If someone pays for a very fine SM and gets one that makes them cry, I think they should return it, don't you? It might be another case where the reason the price is so low is that you *can't* return it. IMO, it would be worth a few extra bucks to get it from someplace that will stand behind it.

Doc

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Dr.Smith

The only thread I made direct reference to had nothing to do with Nann, so I don't know what you're talking about.

And I really, REALLY don't need to get dragged into exchanging personal attacks, thank you very much.

Doc

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Dr.Smith

Like many quilters here, I just BUY fabric with no project in mind. I rarely use it immediately. I have discovered that there are many websites that carry out-of-date name brand fabrics at fabulous prices and often patronize them.

One I found after I bought a quilt kit at a LQS and they shorted me fabric. When I returned a few months later, of course they didn't have it and clained that it was impossible that it was short - I must have cut wrong (I didn't). I found the same fabric at a fraction of the price on a website because it was an old line. I loved it and bought lots of extra. So, sometimes all you are paying for is the current line, not the quality.

L , "You get what

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WitchyStitcher

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Taria

You know, it's only *very recently that I have learned that there are fabric specifically designed for each year. I thought they were just 'forever' sorts of things, once designed, until people stopped buying them! There, that shows you how much I am aware of fabric practices >g<

(I buy for projects and *very occasionally just because I love something). . In message , Taria writes

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Patti

I don't get it. Honestly, I'm not being argumentive or critical, but all I've ever seen on *this* ng are regarding some pretty sweet deals on higher-end fabric, thread, etc. from proven and/or trusted websites. I always appreciate the tip. As far as hard-goods, if I waited until I could afford a top-of-the- line (insert name brand)....I probably would have never learned to quilt. I'm afraid the retort *is* economics. We do the best, and buy the best, *that we can afford.* I'm not "waiting until they change." Besides, what you've said is not always true as a blanket statement. I paid full price for a Rowenta iron, and sold it in the garage sale for $5 less than a year later. But I've also found some *killer* deals on very high-end fabric.

*Sometimes* you "get what you pay for." But sometimes you can score a real coupe on quality stuff. If you stay with a trusted brand, you really can't go wrong on a sale.

Sherry

Sherry

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Sherry

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