Printing your own coordinating papers

I made a wonderful discovery the other day. I'm a bit slow, as you all know, but I have just realized that by using acid free paper, I can create and print my own scrapbooking paper! It's really fun and easy!

I have created papers I just like, but I have also created papers specifically for a certain page. On the page below, I designed and printed all the matting (printed) papers to coordinate to the page.

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I scanned and fixed my pics first. They are from when DS Jason was born in 1981, and I had to deal with the REALLY hideous colors of the time, so I did an edge seeking select around the people, inverted the selection, and applied a black and white film filter to turn the entire background black and white. That eliminated the nasty green and gold but isn't even particularly noticeable. It also emphasizes the subject. Then I used the Color Picker in PSP to select two good colors from the shirt I have on, since they were good baby colors, and used those, along with some brushes, to create the paper. I made sure I had acid free paper in the printer and printed out the sheets. It really works well with pastels. I still need to experiment with darker colors.

Every once in a while, I stumble on a good idea. LOL One day, I'll catch up with the wonderful things you all do! LOL

Hugs, Rach

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Rach
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I love the idea of turning the background black and white. They turned out really nice. Great LO.

Lynne

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King's Crown

Thank you. I have found that it eliminates a multitude of evils. So many times you have a great pic with good colors and the background is HORRIBLE. This is the best solution I have come up with to handle the situation.

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Rach

that looks great Rach!

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Trish Irvine

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It looks great Rach! You don't even notice that the background is b&w

- it's very subtle :)

I don't print my own papers because I don't have a colour printer... but I'm not sure it's economical (my mother wouldn't ever let me use her colour printer except for photos because the ink was too expensive :( ) but I guess it lets you make something EXACTLY what you want it to be...

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Karen AKA Kajikit

Either my monitor colors are messed up or I am missing something. What is black and white?

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Scout Lady

The pictures turned out great Rach. Your paper is really pretty. I really like the page.

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Cathy

The pics look great! I had never thought about turning the background black and white, but that's a great idea! I'll have to try that sometime. The LO looks darling. Love the paper, and even better that you printed it. :-)

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Deb in AR

I think it looks great! I'm going to have to remember the b&w background idea for when I decide to scan photos from my childhood. Not only do most of the photos just have an orange tinge (probably a combination of cheap film and unsafe albums), but it was the 70s! LOL. None of the backgrounds could possibly be good in that scenario. :-) I especially love the idea because once the background is neutralized, I can really concentrate on the color correction of the subjects.

Julie

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JulieF

Nice job Rach! I would love to have that program and learn how to use it. I have heard so many things about it. Thats a really cool B&W technique! I have printed some pictures with my inkjet printer, and I've noticed a little fading. Do you have any problems with that? I would love to be able to create papers, but the darn ink is SO expensive!

Thanks for sharing your ideas! Linda

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Linda C

I don't do enough of it to eat up too much ink, just when I need something specific for a page.

You're right. It could be expensive if you did it too much.

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Rach

The background of all the pics, except for Jason lying on the hospital bed, are black and white, but it's very very subtle.

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Rach

These pics were June 1981 so the colors in the backgrounds are very 70s. That's why I eliminated them. I also had what was possibly THE ugliest sofa ever built by the hand of man, so I have to work around that, too. LOL

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Rach

I haven't done it enough to yet. LOL They may very well fade, but i hope not.

I don't have a problem with the pics I print fading. My son has some ship pics I printed 6 or 7 years ago hanging in his apartment and they are still as bright as ever.

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Rach

Does your printer have archival ink? This is really something you should think about before printing like this. Even on titles for things.

I bought an Epson archival printer and I am very cheap with it because the 7 ink cartridges average about $12-$13 each. Even though your pictures have not faded over a period of 5-6 years, will they last 30+ years when your son is grown up? I have been VERY careful about this. I used to work at the elementary school and they had some awards that were framed on the wall and there was nothing left of them after a few years.

I personally want my great grandchildren to be able to look at my ablums. I have put all this work into them, as well as money and I want them to last.

I just think it is something to think about. Since I research the family tree I am very aware of this and that is why I was willing to buy a printer that has archivel ink.

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This web site has a lot of information about these things. Sincerely, Autumn

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Autumn

Archival ink is important but not as important as one would think. Since most of the stuff in a scrapbook gets very little light exposure (unless you are opening and looking at it for years on end, which I don't think most people do. They get it done and then it gets put away and is only brought out every once in a while) regular dye based printers will do just fine.

They are also cheaper in the ink department. Especially if you can get third party inks for it. I use a Canon i9100 and get third party inks. I can print a glossy 4x6 including paper and ink for less than $.10 a print. I have had no problems with this as far as fading or otherwise.

It is also important to understand that when a printer company claims archival that that is with museum quality storage of the item. Which isn't even close to what people have at home. Read the fine print. It also is based on faked tests. Basically they do accelerated light tests to see how long something is supposed to last. But, since this isn't real world I don't trust their results. The only results I trust as ones that are offered under real world storage and light and since printer companies don't do that their claims of 200 years for print life is worthless. I how do they know for real that applying 10,000 watts of light to a print for 5 hours is like the same amount of light it would get over 20 years? They don't, they don't have a 20 year old print to compare it to. They are guessing.

The other problem is that prints are cheap, the companies actually loose money on printers. But, they get you with the ink and paper. For "archival" you have to their ink and only certain types of their paper (read the fine print). So, the ink cartridges are tiny and the paper is expensive and can be hard to come by.

To combat all of this I have my digital camera images processed like film using chemicals on to photo paper that away I have photos with the same life as a regular film processed image. I don't print them on my inkjet unless I just want something that is going to last a few years. For scrapbooks this is not the case. For other scrapbook things like headings, background papers, etc. I print on art paper, like sheets from a pad of watercolor paper. These are designed for the wet ink, they are a lot more archival then copy or laser printer or inkjet paper you would get at say Office Depot and they are much cheaper and are heavier.

In the end nothing lasts for every and while acid free and lignin (sp?) free stuff is important to squeeze every hour of life from your stuff I really doubt if any of this stuff will last more than 50 years and I think that is a stretch and this does include the archival inkjet prints.

I would look for a printer that is affordable, has large ink tanks, 3rd party inks and one that can handle the art paper. This way you can use it affordably. Also, if you want to print 12"x12" you will need one of the large format ones that can print 13"x19".

Robert

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Hebee Jeebes

I do a lot of computer journaling. When I print it I always use acid free cardstock to print on, or vellum. I hope that it will last. Sandy

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Sandy

The Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc is an independant company who = tests/rates all different manufacturers of printers. I don't think you = can say it is biased towards the printer industry. I feel it is worth = the read. Even though it refers to the printing of photographs anything = printed on an ink-jet printer would probably also fall under this.=20

You can also download a free book (pdf) called "The Permanence and Care = of Color Photographs: Traditional and Digital Color Prints, Color = Negatives, Slides, and Motion Pictures"=20

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Here is the first paragraph from the "About Us" page of the website.=20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Henry Wilhelm and Carol Brower Wilhelm=20 Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. conducts = research on the stability and preservation of traditional and digital = color photographs and motion pictures. The company publishes brand = name-specific permanence data for desktop and large-format inkjet = printers and other digital printing devices. Wilhelm Imaging Research = also provides consulting services to museums, archives, and commercial = collections on sub-zero cold storage for the very long term preservation = of still photographs and motion pictures.=20 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The decisions you make reguarding this are your own choice. :-)

As I said, I am the family genealogist/historian and I prefer to take = extra care making sure the things I do and the photographs I work with = will be here for generations to come. I don't want my work to only last =

50 years.=20

Autumn

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Autumn

It should do pretty well. Unless you are framing it on the wall in direct light it should last. The good quality paper, which doesn't mean high end photo paper, but paper that is acid free should help especially in the color shift areas. You can also spray with a protective spray or laminate it too which will help.

I have several prints that I heat laminated (not on glossy paper, it will bubble from the heat) and they look just as good now as they did when I printed them 5 years ago. And, they hang on the wall so laminating should help. It keeps the air away and keeps some frequencies of light from getting through completely in tack.

Robert

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Hebee Jeebes

I never said they were biased. I said there testing is faked and it is. Inkjet printers have not been around for 100 or 200 years. They haven't even been around 20 years (at least not for consumers).

Besides the long archival life spans for inkjet printers is not the first time long life spans have been promised. CDs for the longest time were touted by their manufacturers that they had a life span of 100 years or longer and these were based on faked tests as well. Now they freely admit that they have a life span much less than that. Basically less than 10 years if that. Cheaper media dies quicker but even the best brand names don't last.

Also, as I said if you read the fine print for their archival claims it is basically if the image is stored and/or displayed in museum conditions meaning, certain light conditions, temperature conditions, humidity and even sometimes in airless environments (vacuum vaults or frames). Any other display or storage conditions means a much shorter life span. Basically, you need storage conditions that no consumer could meet without spending 100,000 to redo their homes.

It is all marketing hype and since one can't prove them right or wrong since no one has a 100 year old inkjet print they can claim what they like and not have to worry about being taken to court.

They just want people to replace their as often as they can get people to. They want consumers to ignore the fact that the cost per print for today's printers have increased nearly 5000% over what they were 5 years ago because they are charging much more for these "special" inks and papers and giving less of them (they size of ink cartridges have shrunk considerably and not just because they are including more colors. My old Epson Stylus Pro has ink cartridges that would do 1000 full 8-1/2" x 11" prints. Today my Epson R200 I am very lucky if I can get 100, usually much less in the area of 50 to 60 full page prints.

For me I would be more concerned with the cost per print and what a set of ink cartridges will run me than how long they claim they will last. Cost per print is something that can be proven. Print life can't.

I would also shy away from Epson of the four major inkjet printer makers (HP, Epson, Canon and Lexmark) Epson's printers waste the most ink. Every time you turn the printer on it activates the print heads and uses a small amount of ink from each color to make sure the print heads are primed and their is no air in the system, this is why it takes so much time for it to come online and actually print. Also, on the Epson when the print heads clog and with the Epson's they do if you don't use them often enough you can waste as much as 30% of the ink in your cartridge doing a head cleaning. Epson seems to be the most greedy and the most willing to waste your expensive inks.

Read the fine print for the archival life ads. You will be surprised!

BTW 1: I have been testing and reviewing PC software and hardware since 1992 and have experience with thousands of software and hardware products.

BTW 2: Just to clarify. I am also not claiming that these new archival prints won't last longer than prints from dye based printers (new archival printers use pigment based ink, not dye based ink). I am sure they will last a few more years than the dye based prints. What I am saying is that the life span is un-provable and a bunch of marketing hype designed to get you to buy a new printer and one that costs more to use so the maker can make more money, they don't make money from the printers they make it from the ink and paper.

Robert

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Hebee Jeebes

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