Antique Singer Sewing Machine

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I have acquired a very old and dilapidated Singer sewing machine.  It
has an English (Hillman) motor.  I cannot find a model number, but the
No.66 82387 manual that the  website that provides free manuals for
old machines seems the closest to me.  There is a number beginning
with EB on the front of the machine - very worn - and the motor also
has a number - but that won't be the model number.

Can someone tell me where I can find more information about these old
machines?  I will get it cleaned up and serviced and see what comes of
that.  I simply want a straight sewer that will not move on the table
- which is not what the modern domestic machines seem to offer.

Thanks out there.


Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
The Golfer's Wife wrote:
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The Singer model No. 66 is a very common one, and a good stitcher.
Bobbins, presser feet, etc., are easy to come by.  The motor is separate
and replaceable if the one you have is worn out.  The EB number is the
serial number.  http://www.ismacs.net/Singer/p66.html may be helpful.
Your machine may have simple gold decals on it, or it may have brightly
colored patterns.  The machine is the same.  Here are some of the decal
patterns:  http://www.needlebar.org/cm/thumbnails.php?album=51

In all likelihood, all the machine needs is a good cleaning and
lubrication, which you can do yourself, or you can pay someone to do it
for you.  Be sure to follow the instructions in the manual, and use a
good sewing machine oil everywhere except for the gears, which call for
a heavier lube that comes in a little tube.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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ISMACS has lots of information and pictures and some free manuals

ISMACS is a good start ...
http://www.ismacs.net/singer/home.html
http://www.ismacs.net/singer/models.html#household


When you can read the serial number off the machine... then you
can find information about when it was made what type of machine
it is etc at the Singerco web site below. Just follow the
appropriate link according to your serial number . if "EB" is
part of the serial number then you woul folloe the double letter
prefix link then find the serial number part and keep etc...

the srial number is usually stamped into the flat sewing machine
base, on the right side, in the front just behind the metal post
used to hold a spool of thread for winding a bobbin

Singerco (serial numbers) next good place
http://www.singerco.com/support/serial_numbers.html

hth
robb


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<The Golfer's Wife> wrote in message
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but the
for
beginning
also
these old
comes of
table

on these old Singer machines typically one uses (starts with) the
serial number to find the type/model

So, the EB ##### would be the serial number, called a double
letter prefix and the number part will help you find the model or
class

within the class like (6k, 66, 15, 99 etc) the actual model
number  ( eg, 66-18, 66-14, 15-88, 15-90, etc)  can be found by
looking at the machine for clues and the many parts manuals
available at Singerco as well

Clue examples, hand wheel size and number of spokes, decals used,
type of decorations used on the cover plates, location of bobbin
winder high/low etc......

hth too
robb


Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 13:10:17 +1300, The Golfer's Wife <> wrote:
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EB numbered Singers were made in Clydebank, Scotland, 1937-1939.
If you can get the rest of the number, Singer can tell you the model and date
of commissioning if you call or write to them.
http://www.singerco.com/support/serial_2letter.html

You might also want to look into the yahoo group "wefixit" if you're
interested in doing some minor overhaul yourself.  Otherwise, most machine
repair people should be able to get it up and running for you without
much trouble.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wefixit /

Kay


Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
Thank you all for your helpful hints.  The EB number is 401487 and on
the underside of the machine is stamped into the metal SIMANCO 33653 -
whatever that means.

I have a very good repair person - he services my friend's very
antique Singer and Jones machines.   I am not confident enough to
strip the machine down and do it myself.  For one thing one of the
screws in the plate above the bobbin case is probably rusted and I
cannot move it!   There is also an additional problem:  the rubber
washer on the bobbin winding mechanism is worn and needs replacing as
is also the little stick thing that holds the thread spool.   (I have
been practising with the plastic one from my Brother!)  

I have always had difficulties with adjusting tension and particularly
with older machines.   So I shall ask the service man to give me some
instruction - he does this fortunately!

Cheers and thanks again.



Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
On Thu, 13 Mar 2008 10:03:50 +1300, The Golfer's Wife <> wrote:
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SIMANCO is SInger MANufacturing COmpany, a mark I think they're still using.

The first number and Singer's handy-dandy chart says that it's a 99K
commissioned June 11, 1937, one of a batch of 4000.
http://www.singerco.com/pdf/SINGER_EB_nos.pdf

Instruction manual here:
http://www.singermachines.co.uk/Parts_&_Ser/Inst%20book.htm

and class 66 service manual here (useful for a 99)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wefixit/files/Singer%20Class%206
6%20Service%20Manual/
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And for the 2-thread embroidery attachment:
http://www.sil.si.edu/DigitalCollections/Trade-Literature/Sew
ing-Machines/NMAHTEX/2716/index.htm
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WD-40 or methyl salicylate, with a bit of soak time will often loosen
a screw.  Took me almost two weeks to get one of the spool pin screws
to move on my 99.

There is also an additional problem:  the rubber
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Both of these are easy fixes, as long as you have the parts.  The rubber
tire is easy to come by, I'm not so sure about the spool pin.  But
in any case, if you've got a mechanic you trust, you're in clover!
Do I recall this is an electric machine? If so, you'll want to
have the mechanic check out the wiring for you.  Have him look at the
carbon contacts in the foot pedal, if yours is of that vintage... mine
suddenly quit sewing when a contact shifted.

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In my experience, it comes down to willingness to adjust very small
amounts and patience to keep after it.  :-)

Enjoy!

Kay


Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
If you can find it, try "PB BLaster" which is an automotive 'break
free' product works a lot better/faster than WD-40. DH got it for the
race car and I gave it whirl...loved it so bought my own can!

-Irene


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Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
OK I have now discovered my antique Singer is Model 95K, but I cannot
find an instruction manual for this model.   Do I simply use the 66?

It is a trifle confusing and I would really like some help here if at
all possible.   I am the one who is confused but the machine seems to
have been only one of a batch of 1000 so I can perfectly understand if
another manual that is close enough is what is used.

Thanks out there for all the help you have given me.   I am taking the
machine to the serviceman next week!!!

Cheers



Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
The Golfer's Wife wrote:
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Did you mean a 99K?  If so, the 66 manual is perfect.  The only
difference is the size.  The 99 is the 3/4 size, the 66 is full size.
The 99 is a wonderful machine.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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Yes thank you for this information.  I must have been looking at the
wrong number sequence.  I see now it is a 99K.   It is in a very sad
condition I'm afraid - but nothing that cannot be remedied I should
imagine.  The spool pin is rusted, loose (and probably not even the
original).   The wiring into the motor will need to be attended to.
I hope to get it restored as much as possible.  There is rust on some
of the metal parts (the bobbin cover e.g.).  

Is there a reliable internet site that sells parts for these old
models do you know?   I am in New Zealand and am unsure of sources
here, but it will be a very small market I'm sure.

Thanks.


Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
The Golfer's Wife wrote:
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A good place to start your search is at http://pages.ebay.com/nz/ There
are lots of people in your area of the world who have old Singers (and
other old sewing machines) and who trade parts on eBay.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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We do not have ebay in New Zealand. the closest one is Australia.  The
site you inserted above simply opens up the USA ebay.  We have a rough
equivalent called TradeMe here and they never seem to sell parts of
anything.  Only whole articles, sometimes accessories.

I did not particularly want to purchase through an agency like ebay
overseas because of the shipping costs.  But I may have to.  Thanks
for your help.


Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine
The Golfer's Wife wrote:
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If you have no luck with other suppliers, try the eBayAU site, because I
know there are people all around you who have old machines, and may have
the parts you need.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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Re: Antique Singer Sewing Machine (pogonip)
Hello Pogonip/Joanne,
maybe you could mention freecycle to the OP  , they have numerous
NZ chapters

http://www.freecycle.org/group/NZ


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That's certainly worth a try.  There are ISMACS members in Australia and
New Zealand, as well.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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<The Golfer's Wife> wrote in message
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the 66?
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As Kay said ...
you have a "Singer EB 401487" which is a 99K built in 1937
according tothe information on this page.

http://www.singerco.com/pdf/SINGER_EB_nos.pdf

The 95K would be somewhat different (an industrial type) and the
66 is probably closer to what you have if you can not locate a 99
manual. There are no special feature differences. The most likely
difference between  a 66 and 99 manual  is the front cover :)

The batch size is for the year so even if it was a 1000 batch
they may have had 1000 a year for 30 years or 30,000 one year may
have had a larger batch etc...

htht
robb


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