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How sweet you are today! Not! No one made you the ng police. Grow a little grace & compassion, if you can figure out what they are.

Sewmaster

Larisa, My condolences on your loss. My grandma died 15 years ao, I miss her still. She was sweet and kind, and what a cook.=20

A person who has made such a mark will be remembered with love by those they touched, for the rest of their lives. My mom, who died last year at the age of 78, often spoke of her grandmother, who she loved early and passed away when my mom was only 13. Until the day she died, my mother always had a tear in her eye whenever she spoke of her beloved grandma. Sounds like your nanny made a similar impression on you.

I hope that I live my life and care for my family in such a way so that my grandchildren will remember me the same way!

------------------------ Adult: A person who has stopped growing at both ends and is now growing = in the middle.

please explain how it's lacking in grace and compassion to ask someone to label OT posts as such.

penny s

Saying 'please' rather than issuing a command would do for a start.

What's wrong with it is that her grandmother just passed away, for cripes sake. Do you really think she's thinking about things like marking her posts "OT"? If you happen to click on a post that's OT and not marked as such, it's pretty easy to figure out quickly. Don't read it if it offends you.

Get a life and find something better to do than police unmoderated newsgroups. Or start your own moderated sewing group where you all can be the queen bees and reject posts to your heart's content.

Folks, we've gone through this so many times. Larissa's post's tend to be about 80% personal, 20% sewing. I could go and actually tally, this is just my impression. I count the lists of things she's making for her family as personal. Anyway, just know the probabilities before you open the thread. Or don't open them at all.

We just always end up in a snit over marking things OT and then 2 months pass and we go through it again. I give up.

-Charlotte

So, because most of my sewing is for my family, it is personal and therefore should be OT?? Odd....unlike you (apparently), most of my sewing is for my family because I like to sew and make unique clothes for my children, my husband and myself. I don't *need* to make money from it, and I don't see where making money from your sewing makes your posts any more relevant than my posts about personal sewing.

Charlotte wrote:

I don't post here often, but always read the posts. Most of my sewing is for my family as well. Other than that, for gifts. I've never sold anything I've made. Does that mean I sholdn't post here either? If we go with that logic than a large number of people who subscribe to this group shouldn't be posting.

Larisa sews up a storm (as evidenced by her past posts (did you read all she did for Christmas??!!), and by all the projects she has posted on her web site. Geesh, she even sews for competition, in the NY State Fair. All this makes her, IMHO, certainly worthy of posting here.

Now, if there's an alt.sewing.professional or similar NG, then perhaps those who only want to read posts by sewing professionals should go there instead.

Perhaps Larisa made a mistake not marking her personal post OT, but anyone could understand that given the cirsumstance of her post. Perhaps if the original poster worded her rebuttal a bit differently - maybe with some empahty? - we wouldn't be having this thread at all.

As to the vicious cycle, a NG is a dynamic entity...people are always coming and going, and yes as human as we are, forgetting to mark things OT from time to time.

Ok, off the soapbox for now.

Charlotte wrote:

IMO, these groups are about more than strictly the topic. People become well aquanted and do relate to each other almost as family. As I see it, personal sewing topics are very much on topic since there are some of us not only new to the NG, but new to sewing as well and some personal subjects merely serve to remind us we're all still people, not just typing books of information.

information.

------------------------ Adult: A person who has stopped growing at both ends and is now growing = in the middle.

Larisa, I'm sorry if I offended you.

I didn't say anything about what I sew, you jumped on me there. When I post about sewing it is almost always about something I'm making for my family and it is never just a list.

My point in all of this is to your critics not you. What we've seen is that this place isn't going to change. You're going to have this fight again. I guess even I shouldn't have bothered.

-Charlotte

CNYstitcher wrote:

I never said that, she did. I never said don't post I just told the people who were up in arms that they were wasting their breath. Please, post about what you're sewing! Or post OT threads with an OT header. It was NEVER an issue of worth! Where in the world did you get that from my post?

-Charlotte

Sunsh> I don't post here often, but always read the posts. Most of my sewing

Quite true. It will happen. In any case, I have a little secret that lets me avoid all the problems. I don't read the things that don't interest me. Try it, it works great.