brother CS-6000i timing

Hello,

My wifes Brother CS-6000i is having some problems. She complained of breaking needles and I found that the needle has actually poked holes in the bobbin carrier. So, before I put a new bobbin carrier in, I want to make sure the timing is set correctly.

Anyone know which spot is the correct one for adjusting the timing? It looks like there are 2 different gears I could adjust. Also, any tips on getting the timing right on this machine? I managed to get it set correctly on my old singer that was taken apart when I got it.

Why do they make it so hard to get service manuals for these machines!!!

Thanks

-Dan

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danmc91
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...probably because trying to fix it yourself would void the warranty.

-Irene

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IMS

That would indicate that something has happened to cause the bobbin case to turn out of position allowing the needle to penetrate it. It could have been operator error: maybe the bobbin case was not inserted properly after being removed for cleaning. Problems with a faulty design could have led to a thread jam the caused the bobbin case to turn. The needle holes may catch the thread and lead to things such as broken needles. Timing is likely not an issue. The best thing would be to take the machine to the dealer from which it was bought so it can be properly diagnosed and repaired if needed. gwh

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G. Wayne Hines

Hook to needle timing is no huge secret. When the needle has risen 2 mm above bottom dead center the point of the hook must be central to the needle and just above the eye. Now when you find out timing is NOT your problem, you would do well to do as G. Wayne has advised and seek the services of a trained professional.

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Ron Anderson

This Parts & Service manual can now be purchased for $10.79 and downloaded immediately after payment from

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justmanuals

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> snipped-for-privacy@justmanuals.com Thanks! Yep, when I took a closer look (even before getting the manual), it was clear that the timing should not be able to cause this.

As far as Brother not providing a manual to keep me from voiding the warranty... well, it is already out of warranty due to how long my wife has had it. The reality of it is that for a $200 machine, we really don't want to have to pay someone else everytime something goes wrong or just to do routine maintenance. Honda was more than willing to sell me the complete factory service guide (no, I don't mean the Chiltons guide you get at the autoparts store, this is the official manual they give the dealer) for my car, and my Babylock dealer was willing to sell me the service guide (which has been most helpful) for my serger. I think it has more to do with trying to protect the repair business of their dealers instead of anything related to helping their customers. That and enticing people to buy a new machine instead of making an expensive repair on what is a fairly low end unit. Makes me glad that my machine is still my old singer which was a box of parts when I got it!

Ron, about the 2mm bit, my singer has a mark to indicate when you have the needle in that position.

At this point, my money is on a tangle having bent a needle and/or moved the carrier out of position and that poked the holes. Now the holes are rough and make it easier to catch a thread. Still, I am going to check out a number of the internal adjustments when the new carrier gets here just to make sure nothing else has been knocked out of whack.

In case anyone else is curious, the Brother manual from justmanuals.com is very detailed. It has exactly the information I was looking for.

-Dan

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danmc91

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i think you are right..... big Brother :) doesn't want you to put the dealers and service shops out of business but i think mostly they do not trust the end user to not share the info on the internet. good luck w/machine robb

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robb

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Just so you all know, buying a manual from justmanuals.com, inmost cases,

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> But our good buddy Dan paid $12 to download the exact samething from

I do not like my name being associated with mis-information so my reply is this

First - a "Service Manual" is **NOT** the same as an "Operator/User Manual" and sevice manuals are not readily found for download at many sewing machine manufacturers.

i welcome any evidence/proof of these readily available free service manuals :)

Second - Yes, some/many manuals can be found for free on the internet in a variety of places from the original manufacturer, blogs/groups/lists, someones personal web site , copy a friends ... that is if one is willing to go searching for it.

If one is not willing to search or can not find it then these manuals can be purchased from people who have done all this seaching and collected these manuals.

Third - I suppose most all services could be considered a scam if one can perform the service oneself ?

Forth - i hope someone would look for their manual before posting a question like "where can i find my XYZ manual ?" or do they want me to spend $12 of my time to locate something they could find themselves ?

robb

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robb

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