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IF you get have Cable or satellite
TV (I think) there's a program about Coco Chanel tomorrow night at
8:00 PM on Lifetime TV. I  don't know if this is available outside the
continental US.It stars Shirley McClain.
Juno

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I have the DVR set to record it and am excited about seeing it, when I have
a chance.
Emily


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I watched the show, but I was disappointed.  First, Shirley
MacLaine's over the top over-acting (channeling?),
was...over the top, however that's a small fault.  I was
completely confused by the "manager" character.  The actor
who played the young CC was lovely, but c'mon, can't we
portray the twenties and thirties without all the cigarette
smoke? I'm sure I have read that CC had a child, and there
was no hint of it here.  In addition, the choppy
flash-back-flash-forward was disconcerting.  The two male
companions were gorgeous, and easy to watch.

I did enjoy the fashion show at the end...

JMHO

Beverly



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I was also conflicted by the program. They could have left Shirley home.
Chanel was tiny, Shirley,not. Far to much  make up made her look like
yuck. Commercials  interfered with the story line,of course I should
have expected that on Lifetime. I just resent it. The young men were
beautiful even though I m not a big fan of facial hair. The fashions
were beautiful at the end of the show. I always loved her things. I can
live with flashbacks but prefer a story that follows a straight line.
The worst part of flashbacks is that they drive DH nuts and he keeps
asking me what happened. Over all I'd give it a sort of "C" grade.
I'm still trying to figure out the manager as well. He didn't seem to
know her very well.
Juno

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I, too, was disappointed by the show.  It was pretty much a re-hash of
a movie made several years ago.  Chanel told so many stories about her
early life that it's hard to pick out the fact from the fiction.
Shirley Maclean is not my favorite actress, but she resembled Chanel
as she was at age 70.  I'm 70; I hope I don't look that used up.

The fashions were lovely at the end of the show.  I wonder if they are
the real ones from her 1950s second showing.  They could be worn right
now, and look great.  I was fortunate enough to be able to examine
some Chanels in one of the collections I curated.  One of her
innovations was a chain sewn inside the jacket.  It helped the jacket
hang just right, and move gracefully with the wearer as she walked.  I
also loved the skirts.  Not too tight, but form fitting.  Still a
great look.

Even though I taught fashion design for years, I don't know the names
of a lot of today's designers.  Much of what young people wear today
is gaudy, too tight, too short, and not made well.  Give me a fifty-
year old Chanel any day!!

Teri

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Terri,
The chain in the jacket was mentioned but I never did catch just where
it was placed. Was it sewn into the hem? They also showed her using a
ribbon around someones waist and I read she had one in all her skirts.
Was it used to keep the blouse down? Was it attached to the skirt? At
one point proportion was mention, I believe the line was, proportion is
was counts. Again a quick mention and that's it. As someone who loves
well fitting, well made clothing, these are the things that I want to
know. I really don't care how many affairs she had or how many
cigarettes she smoke, I want to know what little things she did to  make
her style so great.
Juno

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Juno B wrote:
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That was exactly how I felt, it seemed to have been a much
longer film with more plot and character development, but
which got chopped up a lot.

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I had to dig out the book I bought when the Metropolitan had
a big exhibit of her dresses and gowns in '05.  A friend who
lives in NY raved about the exhibit:
http://www.metmuseum.org/special/se_event.asp?OccurrenceId =
It's a great book.  I am astonished at her designs, and how
current many of them still look.  The detailed descriptions
in the back of the book are amazing.

Beverly



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At the end of the program where they had the fashion show several of
the models opened the jackets for the clients to see how well they
were made.  On these particular outfits the chain was exposed and it
could be seen at the bottom of the jacket in the hem area.  If that's
how she really did it or had the chain enclosed within the lining, I
don't know.

And I agree, the movie was uneven and could have been better made/
edited.  Completely jumped over the mid-20's, all of the 30's and 40's
and the movie ends with her 1954 show.  What the?????????????

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Threads magazine had an article years ago on the construction of the
Chanel jacket.  The chain is exposed and tacked in several places
along the inside, about one inch above the fold of the hem.   This is
no ordinary chain from the hardware store.  Think of it as a way to
use a  long Monet or Trifari  quality necklace.

The article may have been written by Claire Shaeffer, as her book
"Couture Sewing" shows the waistband technique.  I don't know the
date, but it was most likely in the eighties.

R

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I didn't know if the chain was exposed in the movie to show what she
did with or if she actually did sew the chain into the jacket that
way.  But I see by your post  and Juno's, with the reference to that
great blog site, that indeed it is sewn onto the hem.  Very
interesting!!  And the pictures of the blog site of the Chanel jacket
the lady made is just beautiful!  And yes, they are timelss fashions
and not dated looking at all.

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I didn't spoil my day.  I found the old Threads article almost straight away
and my memory was wrong.  rtc was quite right,  the chain is shown exposed
in the Threads article by Susan Khalje.  If anyone wants to refresh their
memory on Chanel, the article is in threads 121, November 2005.

I know I've seen concealed chains in jacket somewhere, now back to the
tailoring section of the sewing room library.........................



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The movie is not that bad, just not what we thought or expected it to
be.  Uneven and large gaps of her life.  Watch it and see what you
think of it.

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I've been moving things around lately since DD went to school, but
today I found it.

 Threads #23, June/July 1989, "The Comfortable Side of Couture;
Practical techniques of Coco Chanel' by Claire Shaeffer.  She also
gives details for making matching braid, edge finishes, and making
buttons.

R



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LOL.  You wouldn't say that if you knew how many prezzies I can manage to
justify for myself.




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