FAO Wendy, Kate or Larissa

Let me see what I have in my boxes and I can do an online hunt later tonight....have to get ironing done because you can't find the futon anymore ,sigh>.

Larisa

CNY/VAstitcher wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@adelphia.com:

heh, i know that feeling. there's a slight possibility he may want a miniature Emrys Fleet (the rat catcher) outfit... now, that would be easy! for those who don't know Emrys:

my kid adores him.lee

Hrm - most good historical patterns don't come in kids sizes, cuz they grow out of them so fast. You might be best looking at the "costume" patterns, and then modifying them to make them more accurate - moving a few seam lines and using not-costumey fabrics.

Boys wore chemises until about age 6 and then they were dressed as miniature adults. There was no concept of "kids clothing" until the

18th century, I believe.

So a shirt, knee-breeches (take a pants pattern and cut it short, then add on a knee-band that buttons), and a jerkin-y thing (a plain vest with added epaulets) is probably the way to go unless you want a little courtier.

------------------------------------------------------ Wendy Z Chicago, IL (Moo) Wench Wear Costumes

#525 AIM=wendylady525"Though she be but little, she is fierce""It's the little ones you have to watch out for...""I'm not short - I'm concentrated"--------------------------------------------------------

enigma wrote:>

Heee! Cyd Shelby from Cat & The Fiddle Morris (who often rat-pucks with Emrys) was guest fiddler on my last CD!

The Ren-world is thisbig

------------------------------------------------------ Wendy Z Chicago, IL (Moo) Wench Wear Costumes

#525 AIM=wendylady525"Though she be but little, she is fierce""It's the little ones you have to watch out for...""I'm not short - I'm concentrated"--------------------------------------------------------

I was going to suggest something like this. For a middle class or noble lad you could use the body and collar part of the Period Impressions Boy's Shell/Frock Coat (PI205), cut the back an inch longer and the front to a longer point, add paned sleeves rather than the pattern sleeves, and add a peplum or panes to the bottom.

Then there's the Renaissance Common Boy pattern here that would give you shirt and breeches:

zski wrote in news:dlh35j$a9p$ snipped-for-privacy@e250.ripco.com:

can i get it online? we need new cds... :) hey, hearing a 5 year old singing: "you're drunk, you're drunk, you silly old fool, and still ye canna see..." is pretty funny (not quite when he replaces fool with mommy though i don't drink either)

no kidding, as is the SF world... so i can't figure out how i've managed not to run into you somewhere yet... oh, and i remember you originally from ag or agf... lee

zski wrote in news:dlgngp$p1p$ snipped-for-privacy@e250.ripco.com:

that's the problem. the available costumes aren't for boys. i think Simplicity & McCall's each have a "pirate" pattern, & there's that awful long weskit with tights thing (Buttrick i think. it's far left of authentic anyway) in men & boy's. maybe i can adapt a boy's Revolutionary or Civil War pattern?

that's true. and he's pretty happy wandering around in a chemise, but he has an evil step-cousin that teases him about wearing a dress. the kid is a brat, but i try to feel sorry for him since he's an unwanted child :p

he did have a child's court gown when he was 3. i overdyed a bright pink silk with dark green & got a really nice brown. the trim was a green & gold braid. it was nice. he hated it because i forgot to french seam everything :( his girl cousin wore it last summer. lee

Kate Dicey wrote in news:437cb05e$0$9510$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net:

ok. that sounds good.

so, are sewing moms more likely to make new garb for girls every year? is that why there is such a huge slant to girl's patterns? if it weren't for Burda, i don't know what i'd use for boy patterns. lee

Hee. I know plenty of parents who have to "edit" their Pyrates Royale CDs because "not everyone sings about being 'blue blind paralytic drunk' on family vacations!

------------------------------------------------------ Wendy Z Chicago, IL (Moo) Wench Wear Costumes

#525 AIM=wendylady525"Though she be but little, she is fierce""It's the little ones you have to watch out for...""I'm not short - I'm concentrated"--------------------------------------------------------

Whereas I have friends who routinely expose their children to Pirates Royale and at age 4 and 3...or is it 5 and 3...anyway, at their tender ages can sing right along with most of the songs!!

Larisa, d> enigma wrote:

Heavens, this is nothing. As a kid I used to know dozens of extremely rude verses to a pile of old wartime and sailor's songs (comes of being in the school choir with army & navy kids as well as RAF ones... ) that would now be thought of as pornographic. The big advantage this gave me as a teacher was that there was NO foul expression left that could horrify or shock me by the time I got to the classroom. I knew from first-hand experience the levels of profanity amongst kids, AND where it was inappropriate (which is the key). We knew the language, we knew what it meant, and in many cases had great fun looking up the history of the expressions and their etymology. The Complete Oxford Dictionary is very good as a first resource.

One of the funniest things I ever heard was my then 2 YO Goddaughter reciting the witches brew from Macbeth as a nursery rhyme. Another was Little Sis, then three, singing Poisoning Pigeons in the Park.

I had the laugh of the year one summer as 2 little girls skipped past me at faire singing "Roll Me Over In The Clover"