help with drapped bodice dress modification

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DW brought me a dress that she wants **altered/modified**.

The pullover dress has a ... (hope i get this correct )

Drapped v-neck bodice with a  gathered  mock wrap that ends at
the waist seam. The bodice is attached to a knee length skirt.
The waist has a small band between  bodice and skirt. Dress is
lined.

DW does not like the drapped v-neck mock wrap (finished nursing
for a long while now). DW says it gapes open and fits poorly in
the front. Pinning or tacking the drape makes other un-sightly
and un-comfortable problems. She wanted me to adjust the bodice
fit.

*BUT* after many different pinnings and adjustments to the
drape/wrap  we can not seem to get an acceptable fit.

Now for the help ?

So, i suggested it might be easier to just change the style of
the dress ? maybe change the drapped bodice wrap into something
like a v-neck shirt dress style  bodice ? maybe adorn with some
mock buttons etc..

does this sound possible  ?
any problems with this idea ?
any other suggestions ?

thanks as always for any helpful advice.
robb


Re: help with drapped bodice dress modification


Dear Robb,

Are you talking about a bias-cut draped bodice?  If so, I don't think
you're going to have much luck pinning out fullness.  If I could take
you through the steps to create the pattern for this style, you'd see
that it essentially amounts to spreading the center of the bodice
pattern, so that the shoulders are wide apart.  The bodice is then cut
on the bias, and drapes in the center.

Try putting a weight on the inside of the bodice, hanging from the
center of the facing.  The weight can be tucked into her bra to keep
it from gaping.  The weight can be made of drapery weights, covered
with fabric and sewn to a ribbon.

Teri

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Hello, Thanks Teri.

wow you have it quite right, the drapped wrapping part is indeed
cut on the bias  8}

I had not even payed any attention to the fabric orientation at
all.

I'll try the weights see if it works for DW.

The idea of changing the style of the bodice raised DW's brow and
kindled a little too much hope or maybe it was desire and
expectation. Anyways, i may need to bite my tongue before
launching early ideas next time :)

thanks again,
robb





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I'm new to this forum, so I don't know if you can post photos or not.  If
so, I would love to see a photo of the dress as is so I might be able to
make suggestions.  Love to alter clothing from original to unique!  

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This is a Usenet newsgroup, and you can't post photos here because it's
not a binary newsgroup.  Read here to see what Usenet is:

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You, drywatergal, are seeing it on a web page because Sewgirls has a
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hello,

Thanks for the reply and offer to help.

I finally succumbed to registering to an online photo bucket
here is a link to a photo of the dress


http://www.flickr.com/photos/25477361@N05/sets/72157606423377035 /

I was thinking of changing  to a faux shirt style by ....

splitting the seam at front waist, then find center the two
pieces, estimate overlap add seam allowances and sew it all back
together. I suppose i could try just a simple center seam to
avoid all the other stuff but DW liked the idea of shirt style.

The only trouble i anticipate (i am amateur) is the fact that the
drape was cut on bias so one side is bias cut and the other is
not ?? and a bust dart is needed on the drapping part since it
will not be drapping any more and of course that dart should will
now come solely from the drapping wrapped side as i have no
allowance on the existing waist seam etc...

thanks again,
robb

BTW :
i do not care much for flickr as i think their should be a way to
organize photos into sets and sub-sets like

+ Sew_projects_set
   > dresses_sub_set
   > > lizc_alter_project
   > > pink_princess_seam
   > pants
   > > kids
   > > mom
   > upholstery
+ Trips
   > safari
   > bermuda
+ Family
+ etc
and flickr seems to be a photostream bucket which you can just
associate groups of photos with some set name. So there is only
one level of set name groupings and the photostream which
contains all uploaded photos.




Re: help with drapped bodice dress modification


Pictures really help....

I would take out the side seam  and only take in the drapey
part.  You may have to do both sides.

This would only work if there was just a bit of slack in the
droop.

liz
nice dress



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robb wrote:

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Robb,   Sounds like there's too much droop in the drape, that about right?
Something to *try*....  This won't change the style of the bodice, but it
will sometimes work, even on a bias neckline, if it's not a knit fabric.
(I'm assuming it isn't a knit since you said it's lined.  And keep in mind
you will have to do the same thing to the lining.)  

If the back fits her fine, you may be able to open up the shoulder seams.
Then move the shoulder seam on just the bodice front.  What you will be
doing is moving the neck side of the shoulder seam down the bodice.  You
will need to trim then you will need to even out the neckline when you're
finished.  

Have her put on the dress.  Then (geez I wish you could see the hand
gestures I'm making it would be soooo much easier to explain) pin the
bodice front at the neck edge of the shoulder seam on the bodice front
only.  You know how a dart is shaped right?  OK.  Think like you are making
a dart that goes from the neck edge to about halfway across the shoulder
seam.  (widest part at the neckline)  Pinch up what you need to and pin it
like it's a dart.  If that fixes the fit, then moving the shoulder seam
will work.  

You can also just do some tack stitching on the bodice where the two front
pieces cross over each other.  I do that when I make a surplice style
bodice for myself.  That way things don't droop open when I lean
forward.  ;)  If there is topstitching on the neckline, it's easy to hide
some stitches to hold the top closed more.  Just line it up, and then
stitch over the topstitching very carefully.  No one will ever see it.  

Good luck!!

Sharon
--
Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.

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Thanks Sharon,

yes, the dress used to fit well now it seeems it does not (DW was
nursing and has finished for many months) so now DW says dress
does not fit so good.

yes, the dress is woven.

we did not try any altering to the neck and shoulder side so
i''ll add that suggestion to my list.

i tried tacking the seams at the "V" cross over but DW did not
like the alteration as it causes bulking and other un-sightly
bagging and pulling problems.

thanks  again for the ideas,
robb


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It looks like the facing is top stitched.  I would undo the top
stitching on both sides of the neckline,  then hand tack some elastic
on top of the seam allowance cut to the length of each side minus two
inches, and resecure the facing.  On a hanger, the neckline will be
puckered because of the elastic, but on the body it will draw in and
cling.

Re: help with drapped bodice dress modification


Dear Robb,

Now that I've seen a picture of the dress, I take back my suggestions
for alterations.  I was picturing a true draped bodice.

  I nursed my two kids, so I know how much a person can change shape
after weaning.  I'm assuming that there is droop at the fullest part
of the bust.  But this is not where the alteration should take place.
Try pinnng the shoulder seam before you do anything.  Pin out as much
as necessary at the neck edge of the shoulder seam, tapering to
nothing at the shoulder edge.  See if that does the trick.  If this is
a traditionally cut surplice top, the straight grain should be along
the straight, open edges of the fronts.  Pinning out at the shoulder
should get the droop out.

Teri

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Robb,

I have to say I like Sharon's ideas for your wife's dress alteration.

The other suggestion I'd make (now I've seen the photo) is turning the
dress into a skirt. Hack off the bodice, leaving 1 to 2 inches of it
still attached to the skirt, with which to make a waistband, open up a
side or centre back seam to insert a zip, interface new waistband, sew
it all together. Add button hole / other closure to finish waistband.

I've done this a time or 2 for my Mum, can't say I've enjoyed it
particularly, but it is feasible, and probably saves a lot of hassle.

HTH,

Sarah

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