How to sew with Wooly nylon?

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Hi all! Im making a bathing suit and trying to sew with Wooly nylon. I am
using a
straight sewing machine, which i know is not the way your supposed to do
it, but i
do not have an overlocker or whatever type of machine is suggested so im
out of
luck. But its just not working. I have the Wooly Nylon on the top and in
the
bottom bobbin, is this right? So i start to sew, and multiple things go
wrong.
First of all sometimes the needle wont properly grab and tie the bottom
string, so
essentially nothings happening. Then, also, the thread is simply
separating and
getting all tied up around the needle eye. What am i doing wrong? How can
i fix
it? How can i prevent the thread from bunching and knotting everytime?

Thanks for any help you can give me!
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Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?
I can't help with the wooly nylon question, since I've never used it,
but you can make a swim suit with a regular sewing machine as long as
you have a zig-zag feature.  Just set the machine for a narrow zig-zag
stitch and that will give the seam the stretch it needs.

Another question is the type of needle you are using. Swimwear fabric is
a knit fabric, so you need to use a ball-point needle.  If you are
already using a ball-point needle, try switching to a new one.  They do
sometimes wear out or just are defective right from the package.  You
might find that simply changing the needle will solve a lot of your
problems.

I'll let someone else answer the wooly nylon question.  You might try
sewing on a scrap with regular thread to determine whether the problem
is with the wooly nylon or something going on with the machine or
needle.  Good luck and let us know how it goes.

Donna G.
Michigan's Upper Peninsula

chrissy1913 wrote:
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Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?

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Just to add to the other great replies ...

In a straight sewing machine  (lockstitch style) you can only use
the wooly nylon in the bobbin.

If you try to use wooly nylon in the needle then there will be
lots of trouble. Because, the hook that catches the needle thread
to loop around the bobbin relies/depends on a loop of thread to
be formed  at the needle point after the needle penetrates the
fabric and starts to go back up (the needle going up relaxes the
needle thread which forms a loop, relaxing wooly nylon creates a
wooly blob).

So, with wooly nylon , instead of a loop, a  **big fuzzy/wooly
nylon blob** forms at the end of the needle (where a loop is
expected). The hook passes right through the middle of this blob
and does not form a good stitch just a mess as it loops half the
wooly nylon properly and then carries the other half back  around
for the next stitch so it this continual relooping of half the
previous thread eventually  causes all the stich  problems.

The thread in the bobbin has no such relaxing or loop formation
requirements which is why you can use wooly in the bobbin.


An a-side,  if there was a way to make wooly nylon stiff like
regular thread until washed (i am thinking how soluble stabilizer
works) then that would make it possible to use wooly in the
needle. Anyone know of such a stabiized wooly nylon product ?

hth
robb



Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?
chrissy1913 wrote:
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Don't.  It's morte bother than it's worth anywhere other than a
serger/overlocker.  Also avoid the 'overlock' stitches on a regular
sewing machine: they don't give enough stretch.

Use good quality polyester thread, a SUPERSTRETCH needle (for Lycra
containing fabrics and elastic), and a narrow ZZ for seams, coupled with
a wider ZZ for 'neatening' the edges once trimmed.

For really good advice on all things to do with sewing swimwear, go to:
 > http://www.patternschool.com /

Stuart also has a Yahoo group for the use of his patterns.

--
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?
Kate XXXXXX wrote:
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I've only made a swimsuit once, and I used a Stretch'n'Sew pattern and
the techniques Ann Person taught to do it.  I have to admit, it turned
out swimmingly!  I wore it until I outgrew it.  It was the first (and
last) swimsuit I ever had that incorporated all the features that I
wanted, and it looked darn good, too.
--
Joanne
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Pogonip wrote:
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The only swimsuit I ever made was a teentsy, weentsy yellow
bikini.  Unfortunately I didn't learn until I was *in* the
pool that the elastic would stretch waaaaay out.  Oops!  Now
picture me trying to climb the pool ladder, hanging onto a
three-year-old AND my suit.  ;-}

--
Beverly
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Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?
BEI Design wrote:
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Do you have pictures?     O:-)
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Joanne
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Pogonip wrote:
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Probably, although they would be on 35mm slides.  DH had a
wicked sense of humor.  ;-)

Beverly



Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?
BEI Design wrote:
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When I was a youngish teen, probably around 13, my mother gave me her
two-piece swimsuit, which I was excited to get.  I wore it to the pool
in my hometown while visiting with my father.  Unfortunately, I was a
bit smaller than my mother, and when I went down the slide into the
pool, the top of the suit lagged behind a bit - and ended up around my
neck.  For some reason, I decided that I was invisible below the water
line and struggled to put the top back where it belonged.  Nobody said
anything to me about it, so perhaps I was successful.  Either that, or I
provided a few minutes of laughter to an unknown number of people.
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Joanne
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Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?
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Let 'm laugh...  ;->

Beverly



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I tried to accept that challenge Beverly but the squirmy three
year old  ruins my view ;)

in my experience teentsy bikini's and two's and three year olds
are a recipe for  whoopsies ...






Re: How to sew with Wooly nylon?
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Oh, good!  ;-}

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As I found out, to my dismay....

Beverly



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