OT: Kitchen update

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Thank you all for your helpful information given previously.  I have my
new mini-stove, a 24" electric with smooth top and self-cleaning oven,
which fits in the space in my 1927 kitchen with just enough room for my
18" portable dishwasher to snug beside it.  They're too close to the
door for "proper" kitchen design, but working very well for us.  I love
the stove.  The burners heat up and cool down rapidly, and since I'm
still not much of a cook, I've had no problem with burnt on spills
(knock wood) but have purchased a scraper to be ready just in case.

I also finally found light fixtures that filled my requirements -- it's
terrible to get something in mind, then go look only to discover that
nobody has that.  But I found a site with thousands of lighting
fixtures!  They had just what I wanted with large pendants and matching
mini-pendant in the style and colors I had fixed in my mind.

The lighting problem reminded me of one I often have with patterns, when
I have a style in mind, then can't find a pattern to match.

My next project will be a new floor, and I'm not finding it any easier
than any of the other improvements.  Right now I have vinyl tiles which
are worn and chipped.  Underneath there is hardwood, I'm sure, but
covered with all sorts of mastic and tile, and possibly even some old
linoleum.  When we moved in, there was indoor-outdoor carpeting because
the owner was on crutches and needed a surface that wasn't at all
slippery.  We ripped that out of the kitchen, hallway, and one bedroom.
   So my choices are pretty much ceramic tile, or other hard tile;
one-piece vinyl; more vinyl tile, or......   I'm thinking cork would be
nice, but then I see it's not recommended for anywhere there might be
water, and I do drip water sometimes.  I've had Cuban tile and terrazzo
when I lived in South Florida, and it's very unforgiving - of dropped
items and on the feet and back.

Meanwhile, I am loving my countertops, backsplash, sink, lighting
fixtures and new appliances.  None of this has made me a great cook, but
that's all right.  ;-)
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Joanne
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WHOO HOO - sounds like a challenging kitchen remodel!

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I have this problem with FABRIC.

  I've had Cuban tile and terrazzo
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Yes, my parents have tile in their kitchen and doing dishes after a party is
HELLA on the back.
They have some amazing looking vinyl these days.

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It sure will encourage you to practice!


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BethInAK wrote:
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After nearly 30 years in this nearly 80-year old house, it seemed to be
time.  It's been fun!

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Joanne
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SOunds like you are doing great.  I would make an effort to get the
hardwood stripped, repaired and refinished.  SInce it it already
there it might be reasonable to spend the money bringing it back
to life.  I had a lot of ceramic tile in the last house we lived in.
It is awful stuff.  Tough on  your back and anything that falls
on it.  I think it was a contributor to my dog needing knee surgery
too. We did laminate last year and over all I am pretty pleased.
Good luck with whatever you choose.
Taria

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Joanne, I'm a big fan a laminates. One of ny DD had in in the kitchen of
her last house,

  it looked nice  and was easy on the legs.

Are there any pics coming of this work in progress. Please post so we
can all Ohhh and Ahhhh.
Juno


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Juno wrote:
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With the oak floor in the adjacent rooms, I think laminate would stand
out like a sore thumb - or look more like vinyl.  There are no new
pictures.  I think I showed you the old ones at
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Joanne
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Pogonip wrote:
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I agree with that. Several years ago I put oak hardwood in
my kitchen, dining room and entry hall (all are adjacent
rooms) and I love it.  I had them sanded and refinished with
a Swedish oil finish after all the work was completed in my
remodel, and they have stood up very well.

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http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b7/KelleyGreene/?action=view&current=b8538e66.pbw

WOW!!!  I really like the glass tiles you selected for the
backsplash, and the oiled bronze fixtures are stunning.
Congratulations!

Beverly



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BEI Design wrote:
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Thank you!  I do love it.  The counter is glass and goldstone set in
resin, and while it appears a couple of inches thick, it's really from
Granite Transformations, and is fitted over the old tile counter.  It
made it a snap for installation - minimal demolition, and only two days
to do.  I hunted and hunted for the faucet since I need one that will
couple with the portable dishwasher, and found this, which is a new one
from Price Pfister.  The spray is separate so I have two holes in the
countertop, one for the faucet, one for the spray, but no plate and it
all looks quite sleek.  It was only later that I discovered Price
Pfister uses a strange thread and I couldn't use the standare coupler.
However, when I called them, they sent me an adaptor.  I was back to
handwashing dishes until it arrived.  I was not all that pleased about
not being able to pop into my local home improvement center and pick an
adaptor off the rack, but I do like the faucet.

This is the design of my pendant lights -
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And the matching mini-pendant which we put over the sink:
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Joanne
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BEI Design wrote:
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I shouldn't reply in the wee hours.  What I meant to say was that the
glass tiles in the blacksplash are not individual tiles, but the entire
wall sections came cut and fitted and went up in a piece.  No grout
except in the corners.  They look exactly like individual tiles, but
nothing can get in and there's minimal grout to deal with.  Easy care!
My favorite!

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Joanne
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Pogonip wrote:
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Mine too.  I loath and despise ceramic tile or anything else
which require lots of grout.  I chose slab granite for my
countertops and they were installed with only one seam along
the longest wall.  And 12" granite tiles for the backsplash.
Very little grout, and it is tinted and sealed, so will not
(I hope) ever show grunge.

Beverly




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BEI Design wrote:
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We have much more important things to do than scrub grout!
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Now yer talkin'  !

Beverly



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Taria wrote:
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I would like to strip down to the old hardwood, get it cleaned up and
sealed, but none of the other wood floors (the entire house is oak
floors) have been done and I'm not about to tackle that!  I'm going to
take my time and think it through.  After all, it's not like there's any
rush.  LOL.  Unless you ask my DH who wants everything done yesterday
and in a way that he doesn't even notice the work.

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Not all laminates look like wood, I've seen them in designs that look
like stone and tiles, no  strain on the legs and feet.
I don't know why but the last time I looked at those pictures I thought
you could see mountains out the kitchen window. Must have been have
hallucinations. Do love the makeover. It's beautiful.
Juno

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No mountains from the kitchen windows, not unless you get close and look
at an angle.  I do have a lovely view from the living room windows,
though, and since there's a city park across the street, nothing will
ever block that view.  We're on a sort of bluff over downtown.  This has
mixed effects - we get slightly colder and more snow than the downtown,
but we also have views.  The trees in the park block some in summer, but
when the leaves drop in the winter, there's quite a vista.  I can also
watch the fireworks downtown.

I will look at the new laminates - you're the second person now that's
mentioned the stone patterns.
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Laminate, ime , is not a good flooring for a messy cook, especially if
you have a tendency to drip liquids on the floor, which then becomes
like an ice skating rink for the unwary.  And causes the "engineered" wood to
break down.  Bamboo is also not recommended for wet areas.

Personally, I'd consider stripping what you can, down to the original flooring,
then covering that with 1/8" plywood and vinyl flooring for "temporary".
Then when you decide to refinish the other floors, this one can be done, too.
Ceramic tiles of various descriptions are nice, but often the floor needs
to be stiffened in an old house to accomodate it, and anything dropped
goes smash...

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Laminates might not be right for this room but they have really
changed over the years.  I took a scrap of the stuff and tossed
it into a bowl of water.  It sat for days and showed no change.
I was shocked.  It does ding and nick though.  It isn't slick
like ceramic tile when wet.  I went down on damp sport of tile
and that stuff is just plain dangerous.  Rough non slick surfaces
on tile would help but if I was going down I would rather do it on
laminate.  Flooring is a tough decision since there are some many
choices!
Taria

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Taria wrote:
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That's the truth!  Choices, choices!  I don't want to fall, nor does DH,
who took a tumble a week ago and is still hurting from it, never mind
the skin he left behind.  Tile is just so hard!

I am reminded of the woman, who surely deserves an award of some kind,
who jumped from the burning balloon and said she thought to herself,
"This is going to really hurt!"
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Messy?  Moi?  Well......yes, I splash and drip, plus there's the three
resident felines....  not to mention the DH.
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When I was a girl, many of the older kitchens had pieces of linoleum
laid down like area rugs.  Nowadays they are making flooring that can
be laid like that, either with floor showing around the edges or
tucked under the baseboards to look like vinyl tile -- but now the
pattern goes all the way through and doesn't wear off in front of the
sink!   (Not to mention that it doesn't crack when laid over an
un-even floor.)

This would be very good for a floor that you plan to re-finish in a
few years, since all you have to do is pick it up and drag it out to
expose the original floor.  

Joy Beeson
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