Sewin machine help - weel doesn't turn

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Hello, ladies,
Hopefully someone here can help me. I have a Europen (German) sewing
machine Veritas, which i used for the past 14 years without any single
problem. It is electric, but no electronics inside, just simple basic
machine with a dozen of stitches.
Today I started sewing (and last time I used it just a couple of weeks
ago) and the hand weel is extremely hard to turn. It is not stuck, but
very tight. If I turn the needle knob off (like when i need to spool
some thread on the bobbin) it is fine, but when I connect it back, the
weel is very tight and the pedal obviously doen't do anything. I
opened the machine completely, checked from the top and from the
bottom, didn't find any visible problem. Manual said that there is
permanent special greezy stuff all over (which are plenty of all over
inside), so the only place I need to add oil is around the shuttle. I
tried, no results.
There is no dealers for my machine, so I need to be able to fix it
myself.
Any help will be appreciated.
TIA
Vera

Re: Sewin machine help - weel doesn't turn
Evening Vera,

Althought you have addressed you message to the "Ladies", I have decided to
reply anyway ( just ignore me if I am out of line )

You don't need to go to a machine specific dealer to service your machine,
especialy not the older mechanical/electric models. Most of those machine
run pretty much on the same principle and most reputable dealers will know
how to service them.

Best solution, get a recommendation from other sewers or fabric store ppl.
Which repair person do they like and trust. Barring that: let your fingers
do the walking.

Jean



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Vera,
I have Veritas Columba (still have, but do not use), and the only thing I
can think of is to take out the needle plate and see if there is anything
underneath it (if you have not done it yet). Otherwise go to a professional.

Cheers

Tatiana



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Try going over to yahoo main website,  go to groups, and looking for the
yahoo group "wefixit". They should be able to help. Its a group of people
who fix sewing machines as a hobby, and they love to share info on  that
subject.


Rebecca



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When is the last time you cleaned and oiled it?  Take a look at the
manual, and see what should be removed, cleaned, and oiled, and try that
before doing anything else...

Use the vacuum cleaner to SUCK fluff out rather than blowing it further
into the bowels of the machine!  You may have to remove the bobbin case
to clean under/behind it.  Leave nothing uncleaned!  This includes
taking out out of the box/case/table and cleaning under it, and removing
all covers and bits of body that are easily removed.  Clean off old
oil/grease, and re-oil/grease those bits, removing ALL lint and fluff as
you go.

You shouldn't need a dealer for that make of machine, just an old
fashioned sewing machine shop with a real mechanic in a workshop in the
back.
--
Kate  XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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Kate, while the advice of removing the old oil/grease is generally correct,
I would be very careful in this particular case: this machine has a lot of
plastic gears, which greased with special thick paste-like stuff. I think
firstly that ordinary liquid machine oil may not be suitable for this kind
of material, and secondly one need to be sure that the new stuff will not
damage the plastic (and  who knows what it was made off then in Eastern
Germany :)). I never removed the original grease from plastic parts of my
machine, though I added  a bit of lubricant from time to time - not the
sewing machine oil, but a rocket engine lubricant - it 's gel-like.

In this case I bet it is something with the shuttle mechanism (I took my
Columba from exile yesterday and checked - the wheel turns beautifully, the
last time I touched it is more than a year ago).

Regards

Tatiana



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AKK!  The dangers of plastic gears!  Thanks for the tip-off!
--
Kate  XXXXXX
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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Thank you, ladies and gentlmens for help! First i contacted the
suggested yahoo group and they adviced to clean the old greesy stuff.
I did some cleaning around the bobbin case, removing bits of greeze
with lint and dust. Add machine oil, assembled it all back and to my
big surprise it is working fine. I guess my next big step should be to
completely clean and replace the old greese with the new one. What
should I use and where to buy it (the greese)? Is it something special
for sewing machine?
Thanks again!

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I am glad that they were able to help you.

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I use singer's lubricant. It comes in a red and white tube that looks like a
travel sized tooth paste tube.  I am not familiar with your make and model
of machine though, so again I think you should ask the wefixit group.   On
some machines ( like the singers) it is extremely important to follow the
manufacturer's recommendations as to what parts to oil and what parts to use
the greasy  lubricant stuff on.

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Yes.  For example if you use the wrong product when lubricating a motor you
can burn it out!


Rebecca



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my 30yr old Necchi seized up completely a couple of years ago and
there was quite a bit of interest here and in rcm.  the actual final
fix was in the complex linkage that controls and powers the needle
shaft.  there is a couple of joints that when sticky, have a tremendous
mechanical advantage over the power shaft.

when this linkage is binding, it locks the machine up like nothing
else can.   just lubing was not enough, i had to loosen some of the
pivot points (not dissassemble) and make sure the oil penetrated.
complete service would likely have fixed it.   --Loren


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Sorry I didn't catch your original post.  You can get "Singer Sewing
Machine Lubricant" at Walmart and Joanne Fabrics, this is what Singer
markets for using on both metal gears and motor grease cups (both common
on older Singer machines).

And watch what you use when cleaning out the old grease. A lot of people
suggest using QTips but these leave behind bits of cotton and fluff,
which is not what you want to have left on gears.  Use toothpicks, pipe
cleaners, and such that don't 'shed'.....
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12:00pm (EST+5) From: snipped-for-privacy@twcny.rr.com <(IMS)>
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And watch what you use when cleaning out the old grease. A lot of people
suggest using QTips but these leave behind bits of cotton and fluff,
which is not what you want to have left on gears. Use toothpicks, pipe
cleaners, and such that don't 'shed'.....
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   Good point. I wee use scraps of clean cotton left over from sewing
projects. I cut into approx 2 inch squares, stashed in a see-through
plastic bag, which hangs on my pegboard.
    To use, I wrap them around the end of either a orangewood stick, or
a wooden chopstick, depending upon whether I've eaten Chinese lately.
Toss after making a couple of passes through the machine guts.
   Safety note: don't let grease or oil saturated rags sit overnight in
your sewing room, as there is a danger of spontaneous combustion. One of
our local museums suffered great losses  because a workman left greasy
rags at the foot of an antique screen he was cleaning.
                       Cea


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Petroleum oils and greases will not spontaneously cumbust. Polemerizing
vegeatable oils (linseed, tung) oils will. It is likely he was applying one
of these oils, a common wood conditioner/finish, when this happened.

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tanya snipped-for-privacy@ihug.com.au (Tatiana)

Kate, while the advice of removing the old oil/grease is generally
correct, I would be very careful in this particular case: this machine
has a lot of plastic gears, which greased with special thick paste-like
stuff. I think firstly that ordinary liquid machine oil may not be
suitable for this kind of material, and secondly one need to be sure
that the new stuff will not damage the plastic (and who knows what it
was made off then in Eastern Germany :)). I never removed the original
grease from plastic parts of my machine, though I added a bit of
lubricant from time to time - not the sewing machine oil, but a rocket
engine lubricant - it 's gel-like.
<snip>
Tatiana
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   Some machines have more durable nylon gears; it can be hard for the
untrained eye to see the difference. Old grease on the nylon gets gunky,
and should be removed before you re-grease them.
  I use 'white grease' to lube my machine guts. Available at home supply
stores; cheap, too.
  When an older machine locks up, it's often due to lack of oil/grease.
Lube/ coat gears well, and let it sit for a while before working the
wheel. I've got an old black mechanical Singer which froze up due to
lack of regular maintenance, whereupon it was 'gifted' to me. This
treatment worked well to free up the machine.
                     Cea


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Thank you all or your help! I cleaned the machine around the bobbin,
removed a lot of old gunk, grease particles full of lint, etc. Added
good machine oil and viola - it works fine! In the nearest future I
plan to do major cleaning/regreasing work on it. Helpfull folks on
yahoo wefixit group suggested to use regular petroleum jelly instead
of grease.
Thank you again,
Vera

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I disagree with that part. Petroleum jelly can eat through some types of
rubber and plastic. Its why they tell you to NEVER use it as a sexual
lubricant with condoms!   Don't use the petroleum. Get  the right stuff from
a sewing machine dealer. Any dealer that sells singer products usually has
it.   It should be around $3.

Rebecca





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It is probably a silicon base stuff...........

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