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Help! I just put some vinyl fabric in my sewing machine.  I'm sewing a new
cushion for my husband's boat.  Although I've set the stitch length to long
the stitches appear very small and it's tough going.  Does sewing vinyl have
special requirements?



Re: sewing vinyl
kristinelund wrote:
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Do you have a walking foot, even feed foot or a roller foot? Most vinyl
needs an assist to feed through the machine.

penny s



Re: sewing vinyl
kristinelund wrote:
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Vinyl tends to stick to the presser foot.  A leather foot, with a roller
  feature, would be helpful but may not be feasible to buy for just one
project.

Try putting strips of tissue paper along the sewing line.  You may need
strips underneath too, if the feed dogs don't seem to move the vinyl
along normally.

Doreen in Alabama


Re: sewing vinyl
Thanks Doreen and Penny!
What's a walking foot?


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Re: sewing vinyl
kristinelund wrote:

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"This foot features a set of teeth that interact with the sewing machine
feed teeth to grip the fabric during the stitch formation to virtually
eliminate fabric shifting."  from http://www.lydias.com/footof.html

It's a very worthwhile investment for anyone who sews a lot.  Pfaff
machines have the capability built in, I believe.  Bernina (probably
other machines also) has a specific walking foot (naturally), rather
pricey (also naturally!), which I use often.  Catalogs like Clothilde
offer generic walking feet...I don't know anyone who has one of those,
so am not sure how well they perform.

Doreen in Alabama


Re: sewing vinyl
Thanks Doreen.  I just bought a Janome 1600P a few months ago.  I love the
machine, but I wasn't aware that at the moment anyway they only have three
feet accessories a regular foot, a rolled hem foot and a invisible zipper
foot.  The dealer who sold me the machine said they will be coming out with
more feet in the future, hopefully a 'walking foot'.
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Re: sewing vinyl
I'm new to the group but caught the tail end of this question.

I s there something unusual about the 1600P or is it just another model of
Janome machine.  Why don't normal Janome feet fit?

Sounds like what you need is not a walking foot but a rolling foot.

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Re: sewing vinyl
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   I have this problem when sewing Reflexite (r) (tm) striping to
anything. I use a scrap piece of cardboard (one that formerly held bias
tape in the package) under the presser foot, moving as the stuff goes
through.

HTH

--Karen M.


Re: sewing vinyl
Lurker has to say....

I have done many many many boat seats and the only way that worked best for
me was to buy a can of silicon spray and use that on the vinyl to get it to
pass through my machine. I tried a walking foot and paper and what have you
but the best was the silicone spray by far.
It doesn't take much of a spritz and the stuff just glides through the
machine. JMO &2cents

~KK in BC~

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Re: sewing vinyl
Tomorrow I will try the tissue paper first because I have that.  If that
doesn't work I'll try the silicone.
I have my own soft furnishing business and specialize in roman blinds and
loose covers, however this is my first attempt at boat cushions and vinyl,
any other tips?
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Re: sewing vinyl
kristinelund wrote:
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For the heavier things, consider purchasing an commercial machine more
suitable for those heavier fabrics. They are much faster too.

penny s



Re: sewing vinyl
definitely a leather needle and lots of patience and very tough hands.....
I found that working on those seats was killer on my hands because of all
the pulling and stretching of the vinyl.
oh and a LONG stitch length is vital as well. ...
it has been a while since I have done much upholstery work so things aren't
coming to me very quickly sorry

~KK~

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Re: sewing vinyl
replying to ~KK in BC~, Thank you for the silicone hint wrote:
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Yes!! Thank you for the silicone hint; it worked beautifully with just my normal
foot.

Re: sewing vinyl
kristinelund wrote:

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I find it feeds better with a roller foot, and I like a leather needle
for it.

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Re: sewing vinyl
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:47:47 +0200, "kristinelund"

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Can your sewing machine handle heavy materials?  Guess that's the first
question....

If the manual states it should be able to sew these items, then lighten
the pressure on the presser foot.  I don't use a teflon foot or a
walking foot on any of my vintage machines, but those items may help
you....

=46or me a combination of long stitch length, low pressure, and a size 16
or 18 needle and of course, going s-l-o-w-l-y.

-Irene


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Re: sewing vinyl
I make my living as an upholsterer.  When my residential customers come to
me with their attempts to sew vinyl on their home machines, I congratulate
them on their "valiant effort".  Chances are, your machine won't really
produce a 100% finished product.  And unless you are using a special thread,
you are throwing away time and money.
I understand the DIY mindset...it's how I started 20 years ago.  But as a
sewing enthusiasist (sp?), I think you would be more enriched by finding a
friendly neighborhood upholsterer and get them to just sew it for you.
(Heck, send it to me, and I'll sew it for you, for free, just to have it
done right)  And then you can do the final installation.
Also, on boat anything, I use stainless staples, they don't rust out.
HTH
Perry

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:47:47 +0200, "kristinelund"

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Can your sewing machine handle heavy materials?  Guess that's the first
question....

If the manual states it should be able to sew these items, then lighten
the pressure on the presser foot.  I don't use a teflon foot or a
walking foot on any of my vintage machines, but those items may help
you....

For me a combination of long stitch length, low pressure, and a size 16
or 18 needle and of course, going s-l-o-w-l-y.

-Irene


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Re: sewing vinyl
not entirely true!!! In particular I know of one set of seats that I did
over 9 years ago now that the person has moved to three different boats
simply because they were the best ones he said he has ever owned. They did
not rip, they did not pull apart at the seams, they did not leak making the
foam break down. AND they were done on a regular machine using the proper
thread and silicone spray only.

It IS possible to do a 100% finished product if you take your time and use
the right materials for the job. I even have pictures of the seats that I
could scan just to show you what can be done on a regular sewing machine.

I don't see why she wont be able to make these things properly and
wonderfully.

~KK in BC~ who has upholstered everything from kitchen chairs to the entire
inside of an airplane and boat seats too.

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Re: sewing vinyl
There are exceptions to everything.  And all of my comments are in a
positive tone.  I think it's best to lay out the facts and then delight in
the star pupil, rather than sugarcoat.
Also, what a lay person thinks is an excellent job, when shown professional
tricks and tips is woefully amateur. Same for the recipients of those jobs.
Sometimes, you just don't know better.  When presented superior products,
methods, I would think the humble person *interested in learning* would be
grateful.
But really it all goes to the mindset of getting the proper craftsman
(sewing is sooooo versatile, so many skills involved, besides an innate
knack) AND the correct tools.  Give the right trade the right business and
in turn that trade/craft will share its knowledge.
For every do it yourselfer that comes in, I generally don't charge them or
only charge materials...but the wealth of learning that they leave with is
priceless.  At least somewhere in the project, I want to share techniques
that only a person inclined to like this kind of stuff will appreciate.
I am not worried about losing money or business.  I have all that I can
handle.  In fact, my roster is full till the end of the year, I cannot find
good help anymore..it is truly a dying craft.

Some of my best proteges have been home sewers.  Some of the worst proteges
have been home sewers.  The difference was the mindset.
Perry

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Re: sewing vinyl
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:47:47 +0200, "kristinelund"

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This sound like the perfect situation for using a teflon foot, a
leather needle and long stitches.

Sharon

Re: sewing vinyl
Get a roller foot - even better than teflon.

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