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You know what really bugs me lately?
People who post once, asking for help, you answer to the best of your  
ability, ask them to come back and they never show up again. If you only  
come by once to pick our brains but never have any thing to offer or  
just can't be bothered to help anyone here with a problem, do me a favor  
any stay away.
i feel so much better getting that off my chest.
Juno

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Nods  <applause>

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  I completely disagree  -  and I invite all newcomers, visitors
and lurkers to post their thoughts & questions any time.  
I much prefer a tolerant, friendly, & welcoming newsgroup !
  ... it sure beats the other kind !
   John T.





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On Sunday, October 27, 2013 6:39:47 PM UTC-7, snipped-for-privacy@ccanoemail.com wrote:
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Thanks John T!  I think the other two posters come off very rude and not very charitable at all. After reading that, I would hesitate to ask anything, in fact, probably won't.  

Bummer, I thought this was a nice group.

Julie

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Well those 'other two posters' have been posting to this group since before  
Adam was born so their names are very well known as being long term  
mainstays of this group.  They've both put in the hard yards here answering  
questions and contributing for years.

I can certainly understand why they might both be irritated by one hit  
posters.  



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 And others who participate here - occasional visitors, lurkers  -
might not feel the same "ownership" as the mainstays  -
- but have absolutely no problem with welcoming newcomers !
  One-hit posters    two-hit posters  .. I'm not counting.
   John T.






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On 10/28/2013 3:19 AM, Farm1 wrote:
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Thanks for your input Farmi, You also have been here forever and have  
asked and answered many questions. I think you understand my  
frustration.Once in awhile things just reach a boiling point and I  
reached mine when I put up that post. I don't expect anyone to agree  
with me,but it's nice to know that there are those who do.
This group has done so much for my ability to sew better than before I  
came here. If people want to lurk that's fine too. If you come for one  
time problem just say so and perhaps when invited to stay around at  
least have the courtesy to say "No Thank  You." You notice I don't say  
you have to say Thank You.
If people don't come back one in awhile and contribute, the group will  
disappear. That will be sad because it will deprive many people of the  
opportunity to learn and improve as those of us who hang around have done.
Juno

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:If people don't come back one in awhile and contribute, the group will  
:disappear. That will be sad because it will deprive many people of the  
:opportunity to learn and improve as those of us who hang around have done.

Scolding people who ask questions isn't likely to encourage
participation.

--  
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On 10/28/2013 7:28 PM, David Scheidt wrote:
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I expressed an opinion. In the eyes of many people a negative one. I  
realize I offended people. I'm just one person here. If you don't like  
my opinion, I accept that. I'm really not a negative person, I'm a very  
upbeat one, but it is my opinion, I said it and now I'm done with the  
subject. Controversy is a better than apathy. I'm not sorry I did that.
Juno


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The original "scold" was not in response to anyone's 'question', it  
was a generic comment about what "bugs" her.  If anyone took  
offence, perhaps it was a case of "if the shoe fits", making that  
person see him/herself in an unattractive light.

Participation here is welcome to one and all, and those of us who  
share our years of experience and research capabilities would like  
to know that the answer(s) do/did indeed help.

When Ron jumps in with suggestions (thank you, Ron!), I am appalled  
at the rudeness of those who pose a question but fail to reply his  
solution.  How long would you continue offering your assistance if  
no one ever posted a response?  


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  .. there ya go   !
.. a very welcoming post  !
  Good on ya  !
  John T.




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On 10/28/2013 8:04 PM, snipped-for-privacy@ccanoemail.com wrote:
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Well said, Beverly and John.
Juno

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Yep.

Once in awhile things just reach a boiling point and I
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Yep.  Big time for me.

If people want to lurk that's fine too. If you come for one
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Yep.  And that is happening more and more all over usenet.  Sadly.  I've
given up a few groups over time that I used to love reading and posting to.

That will be sad because it will deprive many people of the
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Yep.  It makes me wonder what is in the minds of the lurkers or one post
questioners.  Do they think that responders are only responding in order to
provide them with a personalised service or do they think that responders
might be people who belong to a community even if it is only an online
community?   Do they not answer in real life when asked a question?

Mind you, I often wonder if those who are asked a question and never bother
to respond have just dropped down dead at their keyboards. I know that death
is not supposed to be funny but I can't stop myself from having a Monty
Python vision of those dead sewists at their keyboards.............




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Oh Farmi, that's a great picture love it.

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Well, this *is* a nice group. But you have to agree that even the worm...  
you know the proverb. Those who rack their brains to find solutions for  
those who ask would at least appreciate a little thank you. On the other  
hand, those who ask once feel perhaps a little insecure about their store of  
experience, especially when comparing it with the Giants of Knowledge in  
here, such as as Beverly, Kate, Joy and all the others (please forgive me if  
I don't mention each name here separately). I myself have felt intimidated  
for a long while, and it took me years of lurking and asking before I  
offered the first advice to a novice on some unimportant matter (as far as I  
remember). Still, however, if you're not too shy to ask a question then you  
shouldn't be too shy to say thank you for the reply.

U.  


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On 10/28/2013 8:15 AM, Ursula Schrader wrote:
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Thank you Ursula. I'm sure I came across as being hard headed and I'm  
not. You are a great example  of I mean. You came and you stayed. You  
have asked questions and you have answered many. It takes so little  
effort really to be part of this group.
Staying around is all the thanks most of us,including me, want.
Juno

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On Monday, October 28, 2013 5:15:19 AM UTC-7, Ursula Schrader wrote:
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You're right, there are some very nice people on this group. I take back my comment.

i don't think saying thank you is all these ladies want. They want participation. It bugs one and the other Hates when people ask a question without participating.

Julie


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On 10/28/2013 10:32 AM, snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:
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Participation is what keeps this group going. Show up ask when you need  
to, answer when you can. Don't like my choice  of words you said so and  
I accept your criticism. Just stay here, I don't think that's asking to  
much.
Juno

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  Exactly  -  thanks  Ursula.
... instead of    " please stay away "
...  "  a thank you would be nice  "
    
 I hereby thank all the mainstays - and Ron too   :-)
    Swiss  Elna s  forever  !
  John T.



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On Sun, 27 Oct 2013 21:39:47 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@ccanoemail.com wrote:

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Thank you

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