totally OT but might prevent me from exploding

Y'all will not believe this one. Get comfy. I'll bare bones it but it still take a while.

DH had a very small fender bender in my van late January. By the time we got the insurance stuff all dealt with (statements given, estimates gotten, etc.) a series of hail storms had rolled through the area. There were a Heap of folks with hail damage which meant we couldn't get near a body shop for a while. That's fine. My van was drivable, just a little abused looking. We picked a shop that was "certified" by our insurance company as looked like it would cause less hassle all the way around. I called them and asked when I could bring it in. They said June 5. Ok. Since that was a Monday, I drove up there the Sunday night before hand with DH following me and left the van, put the keys in the drop....all the normal stuff. Called on Monday morning to get an estimate of when it would be finished. The guy told me Thursday. Cool. I could use DH's car in the meantime because he had a work car. No big deal.

LOL Now the fun begins.

Thursday no call from the body shop. I called them late afternoon. The van wasn't ready; will be ready tomorrow. Ok. Friday, no call from the body shop. I was busy all day with other things and didn't think to call till after 5. They're closed by then and all weekend too. *sigh* Still no real big deal right? Hubby is home all weekend and we had plans anyway. Monday morning I called. The secretary in the body shop asked me to call back that afternoon because my van "should be done by then." Did y'all notice an explosion last Monday??? I figured you did. I called back and talked to the general manager of the dealership got him trying to fix the problem (or at least figure out what it is since I'm getting Zero explanation.) Then called my insurance agent and updated him. He called the general manager. The GM called me back. He told the body shop guy to get the car done that day, in strong terms. But as a back up plan, they would send the rental car people to come get me (at their expense) if the car wasn't done by 4. Yeah, I'm still driving the rental.

Long story short. They have painted my van SIX (6) times and they paint is not setting. Now, how many times would you use paint that isn't setting??? I think I would have been on the phone to my paint vendor after the second time that it didn't work. I might have assumed the problem was me the first time. But six times????? Whatever. Every time I call (and they recognize my voice now ) the answer is "it should be ready tomorrow." Which is I guess an improvement after what they told me last Monday. Last Monday afternoon I was told the van would be ready "...after tomorrow." Don't know what the you-know-what that means, but that was the answer.

I called this morning and said if it's not done, don't do anything else till I get up there to look at it myself. Call me back and let me know if it's done or not and I will come up. Been waiting 2 hours now for a call one way or the other. *sigh* Going to have my agent meet me up there too. Best part....I told the body shop manager to figure out how much he would be taking off the estimate to compensate me for extended loss of use of My vehicle (the rental is fine, but a taurus isn't a comfy ride when all 4 of us need to go somewhere); the loss of time I've had to spend calling them when they don't call me; and the aggravation this has all caused. When I talked to him the day after I told him that, he said the GM said they would do "whatever will make you happy on a discount." Ok. Good.

Keep a good thought. I will try not to chew the faces off of them when I go up there. Thanks for letting me vent.

Sharon

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Sharon Hays
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I can't believe it I feel so bad for you. Why isn't the paint sticking? Bad batch or no primer? (sorry I know you don't know, I am just speculating). I hope your insurance company is being really good to you at least. Hopefully it all works out ok in the end. My fingers are crossed for you.

Michelle Giordano

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Doug&Michelle

By all means tell me who you are dealing with so I can avoid them like I would the plague!!! This is outrageous!! I would be on the phone with General Motors or whoever the manufacturer is and get their certification cancelled!!

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Pat in Arkansas

I think it's something to do with the painter more than anything. The insurance company is taking pretty good care of us. The best part was the look on the guy's face when I walked in there today and told him who I was. He looked ill. lol The latest estimate is......"tomorrow." I knew you would be surprised. heh

Thanks for the good wishes. I appreciate it. :)

Sharon

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Sharon Hays

Oh you bet. It's Fletcher Chrysler in Rogers. I am telling everyone I know to avoid them. I'm waiting to get my van done then I will decide how much of a stink I want to make. I was walking out to the body shop with one of the sales guys. He wanted to know how long the car had been there, when they promised it to me, and if they'd been calling me with updates or not. So I **know** he's dealing with a client of his that has a car back there too. He even told me that he's really ticked off at the body shop guys right now too. He was very sympathetic about what I'm going through; was nice to know they aren't all stupid up there.

I can't help but think, if I treated a client of mine like this, not only would she not pay me, I'd be lucky if I didn't get sued! It really is nuts. A friend of mine said she couldn't believe I could discuss it calmly. At this point, I'm so emotionally drained, that's the only way I can discuss anything.

Thanks for the support, Pat. Appreciate it!

Sharon

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Sharon Hays

Oh yes I do! We had a shunt at the end of April, and it took a couple of weeks to get the car back - in the meantime the insurers had had it repaired at a place not recognised by the manufacturer - so now we have a car out of warrenty :(

Don't forget to add the cost of the calls as well - and wear and tear on the phone / carpet, cost of tranquilisers etc etc.

*Hugs*

Sarah

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Sarah Dale

Sharon, Be careful of those stinks. You never know if that paint will hold a few weeks, month or year. Burn a bridge you can not go back. Not that there are not other Warranty shops, any Chrysler dealer would be ablated.

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Ron Anderson

I know that can be most frustrating, Sharon. Maybe your insurance company will give the GM a piece of his mind, like lifting their certification for a period of time. That will hurt where they will feel it the most. Emily

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CypSew

Sharon, just breathe. This too shall pass.

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Karen Maslowski

Oh, Sharon! I hope this works out well in the end. Be SURE you get a

*written* guarantee on that paint job, in case it fails later....

Beverly

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BEI Design

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Pat in Arkansas

Yep. Iiiiiiinnnnnnnnn and Ooouuuuuutttttttt. Been doing a lot of that. ;)

Still not done. Went to visit it today.....figured it would have forgotten who its mother is by now. The back fender is several lovely shades ranging from the gold it should be to nearly white. Interesting effect. Not really a direction I had considered going.... Didn't really want them to pimp my ride or anything.... *sigh* Also spotted (they hadn't noticed it) that the new headlight they installed was fogged up on the inside. Upon closer inspection it is obviously not installed correctly...protrudes by more than

1/4" where it should fit flush, and fits flush in the one spot it should protrude about 1/8". Very interesting. They aren't sure they can get a new headlight by tomorrow. So that means Maybe Thursday, not holding my breath, which will be exactly 2 weeks since it was supposed to be done.

Iiiiiiiiinnnnnn and oooouuuuutttttttt. Excuse me, I think it's time for a margarita. Taking the kids to the aquatic center tomorrow to just forget it all for an afternoon. ;)

Sharon (who really didn't know that pigs worked on cars....)

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Sharon Hays

After reading your sad tale of woe and frustration, I want to come down there and grab a sandwich board to picket their shop with you. (Besides, it's been a lifetime since I've been to Rogers). Sometimes I wonder if the passing of the greatest generation means that our work ethic is in trouble in this country. There is a air of casualness and a 'ma~nana attitude that is frustrating. Hope you've got your van back now. Sharon

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Seeker

Thanks for the sympathy. I have wondered the same thing about work ethics lately.

The good news is I do have the van back. We picked it up on Friday. The body work is all fine. The body shop manager wasn't there when we picked it up. He told his secretary to not do up a bill, instead he is going to call me on Monday to discuss it.

What I also didn't have a chance to discuss with him is the state of my van. They did fine on the body work. But they didn't reinstall all of the parts....like the door lock on the liftgate. *sigh* I am NOT taking it back to them. But I have to figure out now how to get this stuff fixed.

Don't mind the thumping noise. It's just me banging my head on the wall.

Sharon

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Sharon Hays

Sharon,

We had something similar happen - not sure which car (not getting everything re-installed). If I am remembering correctly, we explained everything to the isurance company, even had one of their people come by and look at it (have you been documenting everything that has been going on for your personal records??). In the end, a different place installed the parts, and instead of charging us, they billed the initial place, which paid it rather than face legal issues.

My personal thinking is that you should not have a bill at all for the extended vacation that your van was on. The company is at fault and you are not. Also, since they didn't re-install everything, the work was not completed. If the insurance company is a good one, they should be able to help you out with this.

Just my 2 cents.

Larisa

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off kilter quilter

Having been through a version of this that involved a dealer finally buying a vehicle back from us, I'd give your state attorney general's office a call. Many states have consumer protection laws that specifically cover the automotive industry. Things as simple as how long they have your car can be part of it. Many times they are supposed to provide you with a rental if they keep it over XX days, they just don't tell you. Depending on how your states' law is, you may be able to have the repairs completeed somewhere else but have the original shop be liable for them. As much as you are sick of it and it's a total pain, you should follow through. If you can, document everything. When you let them get away with it, they keep on doing it to other people.

Me, I HATE dealers. I absolutely refuse to have any work done at the dealer, unless it's a recall issue. Know your rights, people. As long as you keep reciepts, work does not have to be done at the dealer to keep your warrranty intact. I'll take a honest mom-and-pop ASE shop who's got a vested interest in customer satisfaction and return business any day.

penny s

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small change

Thanks Larisa. That is what I was thinking of having done. I really, really don't want to take it back up there. *sigh*

I like your 2 cents. ;) And that's what several people have told me. Including a friend who manages a body shop in another state. He said there's no reason the van shouldn't have been done in about days. I'm going to call my insurance agent and leave him a voice mail today. Then we will see what we see from there. I'll let everyone know how it all works out.

There has to be chocolate in this house somewhere!!!! ;)

Sharon

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Sharon Hays

I guess we have the exception to the rule for crappy dealers. We have never had a problem that wasn't resolved promptly. If you car is going to take longer to fix than estimated time you get a loaner for days or a ride from and to for hours. We bring our car in for routine service and every 6th time is free. We had one car that was fixed in a different shop, belonging to the same owner, after having the work done DH decided we really should get another car. We went to the dealer we usually work with and they took the price of the repair off another car and wanted to know if we wanted to sell the old car privately or have them take it off our hand. We told them to take care of it. We got a good price for the car from them. As it so happens , when they emptied the old car out they found a spare inhaler I always leave in the car and called and wanted to know if I needed it right away and wanted someone to drop it off at the house. That's good service. Juno

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Juno

Our local Honda dealer, from whom I've purchased three cars now, is also excellent for service. Their service manager is a young woman who has been with them for 15 years, and she recognizes my voice (at one time we had three Hondas at once), and asks me which car I need to have serviced. This dealership also, if you have all your service done with them, gives a special deal on trade-ins (although I keep my cars for

8-10 years), and they send regular coupons for service. They also send me a reminder notice that says "your car should have xx,xxx miles on it; it's time for your xx,xxx service interval". The last time I got one, their estimate of my mileage was within 50 miles!

My cousin's husband used to manage the Honda service in the next county, and their service is just the same. I don't understand why EVERY company doesn't have that same level of commitment to the customer. It sure breeds loyalty to the brand.

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Karen Maslowski

Do you have a TV or newspaper consumer advocate in your part of the world? I'll bet they could get the parts put on while you wait if you tell them this story.

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Angrie.Woman

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