Wedding dress (again!)

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Hello all,

I'm sure you'll remember me and my wedding plans waaaaay back in the Autumn
of 2006. Well, I got pregnant, we had only a civil wedding ceremony,
yadda-yadda. Now we decided to do it properly, maybe due to the fact that my
brother got married too, and they're to have their church wedding in July.
We are to get married in church in September (this time really!) and to me
it seems that we have loads of time, especially since we're not going to
make it that big an event.

Why am I asking you for help? The dress- of course! I'm sure that I can't do
it myself; no time and not the right level of skill for what I want. Never
mind that, there's a lady who knows how to do this kind of thing, including
developing the pattern. However, I've designed the thing as far as I could.
NO White Wedding for me, that's for sure. I used to talk about green, and
some of you will remember that I had something like a Chanel suit in mind.
But when I pictured myself in something stiff like that in front of the
altar or at the banquet afterwards I felt cold sweat breaking on my brow. I
don't want that! Can't breathe. Can't eat! (Even more important!)

So I racked my brains and tought of this: A calf-length underdress of
taffetta, no sleeves, with an ankle-length chiffon overgown with
three-quarter length sleeves. A little jacket, more like a bolero made from
dupioni to ward off any cold drafts. And since I stopped dyeing my hair red
and returned to dark blonde, green, especially the tone I had in mind
doesn't seem so good an idea. The new colour scheme is greyish-blue, my eye
colour. Taffetta is no problem, dupioni isn't either. However, I had thought
of a printed chiffon or so and that seems to be a problem. I found this:

http://www.alfatex.de/epages/alfatex.sf/secFEKR0NNIGSc/?ViewAction=View&ObjectID=360162&Page=4

but I'm absolutely uncertain about the material and the pattern.

I'll try to post my idea for the dress, too, but that will take a while,
since DH has to scan the whole thing and I'm bound to see my SIL today.
Since the printed fabric above is a bargain, I'd be more than happy to hear
your comments on it.

Thanks in advance,

U.




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"Ursula Schrader" wrote...
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Dang! I forgtot to mention that it's the last one on that page!

U.



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Ursula Schrader wrote:
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*phew*  I'm sure glad you added that, since the first one has some kind
of horse-related theme.   Pretty fabric, nice design, the horns were OK,
but the tack was a bit.....tacky?  For a wedding.  LOL.

Now the last one, I think would work and would be good.  YMMV.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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some things to look at:  

This one is a tulle, so probably not what you want.  But was interesting to
look at.

http://www.trimfabric.com/nv-701.html

This one is silk, and it's more of an abstract kind of thing...I think it's
a little "heavy" for what you want though...

http://www.trimfabric.com/rr-119.html

Here's several embroidered silk chiffons

http://www.thaisilks.com/index.php?cPath=1_86

Now, the thing to keep in mind with the "natural" stuff on that page,
because the base fabric is silk and the embroidery is done in rayon, it
would all dye whatever color you wanted.  There are some really pretty,
very delicate fabrics there too.  

I hope some of that helped rather than just muddying the waters further.
lol Whatever you decide to do with your dress it will be lovely and it will
be exactly what you want.  ;)  

Good luck!!!!

Sharon

--
Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It's a waste of time and just annoys the
pig.

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"Properly" equals:

1.Got married.

2. THEN had a baby.



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"Suzy" wrote...
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Really?! Well, we were married when she was born, although not when she was
conceived. So, is there a problem in that, as far as the dress is concerned?
(I'd have a serious problem with a white wedding, really, since I feel that
my days of innocence are long since gone, and not only since giving birth to
my little darling. Moreover, I look huuuuge in white or any other light
colour, so there!)



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Ursula Schrader wrote:
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Ignore the snarky remarks, Ursula.  In fact, a killfile entry may be in
order.
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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Pogonip wrote:
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Not only snarky but more than uncalled for. But perhaps she's become the
moral police of usenet. IMHO the only thing that counts is that Ursula's
darling is well loved and well cared for.

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"Juno B" wrote...
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Thank you, I couldn't really believe my eyes when I read. I wasn't sure if
that was some kind of joke. Here in Germany nobody (apart from some very
weird religious communities perhaps) gets upset when a baby is born under
circumstances like Christine was. Yes, she's blooming! (I really love her, I
could go to pieces sometimes, so much love is there inside of me for her!)

But now for something completely different: I'm getting somewhat desparate
in my search for something suitable chiffon- or crepelike. You know, the
light, see-through over-garment I plan to wear, matching with a steel-grey
tafetta and dupioni silk. I thought something with a print might be nice,
but I'm not sure if the fabric I wanted you to look at will be the thing.
Since there is still plenty of time, I might even be able to order something
from overseas, if you know of a good source there (meaning UK or USA).

Purrrleeeze, help, I'm in a planning fit and can't get on without some help.

U.



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Ursula Schrader wrote:
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Take a look at some of these:

http://www.puresilks.biz/store/index.php
http://www.bridallaceandfabric.co.uk/index.asp?nav=%3Cid=a%3EHOME&cust=618
http://www.hansson-silks.co.uk/index.html
http://www.henrybertrand.co.uk /
http://www.joelandsonfabrics.co.uk /
http://www.james-hare.com /

NOT cheap.  Very good, and I have to say that all have good reputations
for customer service, though I haven't used all of them myself.
--
Kate  XXXXXX  R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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"Kate XXXXXX" wrote...

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And so I did (as I said in my other reply) and found these at Cheapfabrics:

http://www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/thestore/product_info.php/cPath/540_768/products_id/1965

http://www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/thestore/product_info.php/cPath/540_768/products_id/1958

The latter one is my favourite, but I'm waiting for your opinions.

U.



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Ursula Schrader wrote:
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You said the underdress is greyish-blue?  Then I would suggest this one:
http://www.cheapfabrics.co.uk/thestore/product_info.php/cPath/540_768/products_id/1965
--
Joanne
stitches @ singerlady.reno.nv.us.earth.milky-way.com
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Pogonip wrote:
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Joanne got in a little ahead of me but I agree with her. The second on
looks kind of industrial to me. The first one is feminine without being
fussy and  I think better suited to the occasion.
Juno

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"Juno B" wrote...
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Yes, I know what you mean, but I'm afraid that the entire dress will be too
light in colour and thus make me look even larger than I already am. I
thought the darker one might not be too dark if I chose a lighter colour for
the undergarment. After all, nothing has been bought yet, and since finding
the right chiffon seems to be the hardest part, I think I can allow myself a
little flexibility on the other stuff. I'll think it over.

In the meantime, I'd be happy if you had any suggestions or comments on the
neckline of the dress and the general pattern of the jacket.

You've all been so much of a help so far and I feel just in the middle of
things and no longer on the shelf, thanks to discussing the matter with the
wonderful sewing ladies from a.s. ;-) Keep 'em coming! ;-)

U.



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Ursula Schrader wrote:
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Ursula,
Your sketches are very helpful. I like the high waist on the dress and
that the pleats  appear to be sewn down passed your hips. I particularly
like the jacket in version 1.
  I'm not very small either and find that the line of that jacket is far
more flattering to my figure. Have you considered not putting a collar
on the jacket.I think it might be more comfortable that way. I also have
found for me it's not color as much as style and fabric choices make the
biggest difference in how I appear to myself, when I look in the mirror.
I personally like soft fabric that hangs a little closer to my body. It
shows me in my best light.I think that using the chiffon should soften
your appearance.
Juno

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"Juno B" wrote...
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Oh, thanks, but let me get to the skirt/dress first. The whole thing was
inspired by a godet skirt pattern from Butterick's (B4470, now out of
print). So it's not so much pleats perhaps but more like gussets (I think
it's called that; like here:
http://www.vikingsonline.org.uk/resources/authenticity/basickit/kit-fig3.htm
which is called a gusseted kyrtle). The upper half of the undergarment is
inspired by this Burda pattern:
http://www.burdafashion.com/de/Schnittmuster/Hauptkollektion/8379_Kleid/1270778-1128998-1003251-1003373.html
Only I wasn't too sure about how to do the shoulders. So I didn't want to
copy the way they did it there. I'll have to talk that over with the
dressmaker if she ever calls back.

As for the chiffon gown, I thought that maybe the chiffon should 'do'
something around the neckline, in order to correspond with the - lets call
them gussets - at the seam. You know, some kind of counterbalance for the
events around my ankles, and the width around my hips. ;-) Perhaps something
like this: http://www.butterick.com/item/B5138.htm??tab=list/tops&page=all

Otherwise the whole dress is quite plain, no frills or whatever on the arms.

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Yeah, well, I tend to - uh, overheat easily, so I had planned to wear the
jacket only across the street, in church and in case I should have to sit in
a nasty draft and the day is an exceptionally cold one for September. The
collar wouldn't be so much in the way. Anyway, I had  a kind of kimono
collar in mind with that first version. Or perhaps more something like a
Korean garment - chogori, I think it's called (like this: <
http://www.schneider-th.de/koreainfo/Koinfo_stichwort_Hanbok.htm third
picture, or this < http://www.willi-stengel.de/Hanbok.htm , or this: <
http://www.clickasia.co.kr/aboutf2.htm ), only a little longer. I was also
intrigued by the slightly rounded cut of the sleeves.

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Yes, I thought along the same lines. I mean, if I'd lace myself up into
let's say a crinoline dress I'd look, no matter how tall I am, very likely
like a walking wedding cake. I found, moreover, that emphasising my legs
helps to distract from the voluminous middle. So I thought at first about a
pencil skirt, but I need room to feel comfy. So the fabric has to sort of
cling but float as well.

OK, thanks for the inspiration, gotta go for today, dinner time!

U.




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Juno B wrote:

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That link displayed an error message when I tried to use it,
try this one:
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Beverly



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BEI Design wrote:
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Thanks Beverly,
Juno

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"BEI Design" wrote...
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Hello Beverly,

how is this URL converting thing done? Do you have to download a special
program or what is the secret of it? I'd love to learn how it's done.

U.



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On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 14:49:25 +0100, Ursula Schrader wrote:

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If you use Firefox as your web browser, there's an add-on called Spedr
(from spedr.com) that places a little symbol like a lightning flash at the
end of the address bar. Click on the lightning flash and the long url in
the address bar is converted to http://spedr.com/5oash , which is my home
page, coz I'm always wanting to look up obscure words!

--
Richard

Whenever I look for something, it's always in the last place I look.


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