What scooter skirt style do you think would be best?

Nope. As a recumbent rider I can tell you that you definitely don't want to be sitting on your shirt. It'll pull and drag on your shoulders, and be uncomfortable under your butt too, after a while. The shirt shouldn't be more than hip length. but can be as generous as you want in width. Make it in a color to match the skort. As to the skort itself I favor the Terry approach: a soft microfiber skirt with attached cycling shorts underneath. The skirt does flap when in motion, but you're never exposed, because the undershorts fit snug you'll never get a bee up your loose shorts leg, and when you stand up everything drops neatly into place.

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The design would be easy to modify to knee length but I'd be afraid that if you go that long you'll either be dealing with a resticted range of motion or the possibility of the overskirt catching in the chain. As much as I love my recumbent, I'd have to say that if you're hell bent on wearing a knee length skirt you're going to be better off with a diamond frame. Kathleen

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Kathleen
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Yes, it says "short section at base of legs gathered at bottom edge with elastic" so I'm thinking an early iteration of the puffball skirt - one for each leg - mercifully covered by an overhang of the main part.

Culottes are in again. I reckon this outfit could be worn today, though possibly without the tie and hat, and would be thought terribly fashionable.

Melinda, have you considered something like Folkwear's Big Sky riding skirt,

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thanks for reminding me about the Manchester Gallery of Costume. I can feel a trip across the Pennines coming on.

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Sally Holmes

Yep. When I first got my antique bike (it's in the background of a websuite...www.labreform.org, click on Who We Are, look for moi!), I made bloomer outfits. Used a pattern for a full-cut straight-leg elastic waist (shhh! not PC!!) pant, about 3" past the knee, gathered to a band that fit my cyclist calves just below the knee. That extra 3" provides range of movement, but standing still like the mannikin, the knee band doesn't show. The pair I made of navy cotton interlock were very comfy. IIRC I rode a century in them on my safety bike. (Historical note: in 1897 they had women's saddles with, um, anatomical cut-outs. Mine is very comfortable!)

Melinda, I have a bifurcated lower garment that has a skirt-type front. (It's a pair of sh*rts, but keep reading.) Standard lower with a skirt panel atop. From the front it's a skirt, from the back it's not.

I do not own a complete 'bent, but I've ridden them a lot, and I do have a Counterpoint. ('bent-front tandem...google for pics) If I were in your cycling shoes I would wear separate layers (saves on fabric and washing). And not change your drumbeat or anything, but I've found that riding a 'bent, no one's looking at your attire!

HTH

--Karen D. who took an exam for City Planner today, and didn't mention the urban amenity of bicycle racks until the 2nd essay question

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Veloise

No kidding. What do you ride? My son rides a RANS Rocket SWB and I ride an EZ-1 Cruiser CLWB.

Which is exactly why I am trying to come up with a design for a slim skirt with some allowance for movement -- an overskirt with long slits on the sides, like some scooter skirts I have seen, or else a wrap-type skirt with one side open.

It's not so much that I am determined to wear one, it's that my personal standard of modesty prohibits me from wearing anything shorter. But I cannot ride a diamond frame bike because it makes my neck, back, arms, and knees ache and my hands go numb.

Thanks BUNCHES for the link -- it's very reassuring that I am heading on the right track and not going too far off into some intrepid adventure of my own.

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Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

I've seen those, but I don't do pant-type garments as outerwear (see previous post about personal standards of modesty), so I am looking for a hybrid type of thing. One thing I was thinking about was a panel front *and* back, which would solve the problem nicely, and if I rounded the corner of the wrap, it wouldn't have so much of a tendency to fall into the wheel.

Well, I am a very wide load, and a very wide load of a person riding

*any* kind of bicycle *does* attract attention.
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Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

My answer has wandered so far from the question that I've changed the subject line.

There's no way a skirt is going to be modest on a recumbent

-- whatever you wear underneath is going to become drawers in that position.

One solution is to attach the skirt when you get off -- button-onto-the-waistband panels, or a wrap skirt. I tried a wrap skirt once, when I went to a meeting on a bike. The next time I had a meeting, though, I packed full regalia in my panniers and changed in a handicap stall before going to the meeting. I wish the salwar kameez had been in style then -- putting on panty hose standing up is not fun.) (Nowadays I'll wear my black polywool slacks under *any* dress on winter days.)

In the days when I went places other than the grocery store, I spent a lot of time regretting that "fluff crepe" was a flash in the pan. I made a dress from this in the sixties

-- and carried the entire project to and from work[1] in a mushroom bag half the size of a lunch bag. Fluff Crepe was neither fluffy nor crepe -- it was a very thin, but opaque, plain-woven polyester that had a finish similar to plisse'

-- but the scale was much wider, and there was hardly any difference between the hills and the hollows. The result was a dress that looked like any dressy print, but you couldn't wrinkle it if you tried. And it took almost no room in a suitcase!

With age and increasing fluffiness, I'm coming more and more to prefer dresses and long shirts to separate skirts -- I still love my pleated broadfall skirt for the huge pockets, but when I wore it (for the first time this year) last Sunday, I wore a hip-length matching jacket. And the beta for my new shirts comes to mid-thigh, with plans to make the real ones kameez-length. Or at least down to the knee.

(Which reminds me: I'd better get on with sewing snaps on it so I can wear it around the house and get an idea of whether I want to change the pattern before cutting my lovely border print. 50/50 linen/cotton, as soft as chickenfeed sacks, closer woven, and I got the very last bit of it -- Phoenix had to give me the ends of two different rolls to make up my ten yards.)

When I was on the 5-Boro Bike Tour many years ago (I don't recall the year, but it was the year they motor-paced the leaders to a *maximum* speed of 6 mph, so I walked a substantial fraction of the way.), I saw a woman in a floor-sweeping dress walking around one of the rest stops. Later I saw her riding in slacks, with a great poof of fabric around her waist. Never got close enough to ask her how she managed that. It would be useless on a recumbent anyhow, since you'd have to sit on the pouf.

(If you *must* pace a bike tour at walking speed, you could at least *tell* the participants that you are doing it. Every last one of the thousands of riders thought that he had the bad luck to be trapped behind a knot of incredibly-slow riders, and if he could only bull his way through it, he'd come to the open space in front of them and be able to balance. This made the ride *extremely* unpleasant. And if I'd known ahead of time that it was a walking tour, I'd have worn walking shoes.)

I greatly prefer long shirts to skirts sewn to pants. (On the other hand, a lots-of-strips skirt that doesn't drop with your pants can be a bit hard to keep sanitary at pit stops.) A long shirt over a separate skirt can be made with no waistline, which is flattering to those of us who are a bit fluffier than we used to be. Also, a given skirt length is more modest when thought of as a long shirt, rather than as a short skirt.

My summer costume riding costume is black linen slacks, cut four inches longer than knee length, with elastic in the hems cut to fit around the notch below the knee. The poofy knicker-knee looks odd, but gives me plenty of freedom of movement.

In the winter, it's wool tights -- if I ever get around to patching them. (I found my wool sewing thread yesterday. My supply of patching cloth is rather pitiful, though. )

Spring and fall, I wear my regular slacks with a pants protector on one leg, and a tape tied below the knee (again producing a knicker effect for freedom to bend said knee) on the other, with a safety pin or two to keep the hem out of the chain.

Not getting caught in the chain -- and not showing anything when I step over the top bar -- trumps everything else in cycling-costume design. With not getting run over running a close second; I don't look good in International Orange, so I wear safety-yellow shirts. Besides, yellow is better than orange when the seeing is bad, and in bright sunshine, when I.O. is slightly better, being visible is comparatively easy.

My only concession to appearance is to make everything that is likely to end up black, black to start with. I once saw a man who had been riding a bike in yellow rain pants, and I'd take *risks* to avoid looking like *that*. A yellow jacket or jersey is sufficient to let drivers know I'm on the road -- the legs don't show much anyway.

The dime dropped a few years ago, and both my new jerseys are T-shirts with added pockets. Fit better, look better, easier to make than plackets -- and when I want to put on a jersey without taking my helmet off, I put in a *separating* zipper that goes the full length of the front. As for opening the placket for ventilation -- if I don't have all that placket-support stuff in there, I don't *need* to.

The linen jersey, of course, has a placket, since I didn't want a neck large enough to pass over my head.

Joy Beeson

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joy beeson

I would think that's going to work best for OP. (Make some cycling short-style inner layer garments out of a print with the "if you can read this you're too close" slogan.)

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Contemporary equivalent is microfiber. Comes in assorted prints, behaves almost like polypro when worn.

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I have a couple pairs of (black) loosely-woven pants in some sort of pseudo-technical fiber. IIRC, off a clearance rack at Wally World. Somewhere below knee length, and they have POCKETS. Throughout this hot hot summer it was sh*rts.

Fleece pants (black) picked up at a Family Dollar. They come in towards the ankle so they stay out of the chain. Pockets. I got them big enough to fit over anything I might wear underneath.

I guess for technical rides (i.e. not to my daily errands) I wear a loose-fitting "tight" (add that to the oxymoron list!) picked up at a thrift. Lands End. Tight-weave interlock, eased fit except for a bit of ankle taper. (Betcha can't guess what color!!)

In-town errands: "normal" clothes with the right leg tucked into a sock or rubber-banded. (The post office bulk mail rubber bands are the best.)

I have a selection of varying-weight windbreaker-type jackets in screaming neon colors, many with reflective tape sewn on.

Sorry about all the pant references, Melinda!

--Karen D.

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Veloise

Melinda, After reading all the input from others, checking your sketches and thinking on your stated preferences, I'd be inclined to go with a coulotte anad matching tights. Skirts are going to be a pain I think. When I was working, and had to spend a lot of time on the ground, tending to injured students, I found that coulottes and matching tights worked well for me. A lot of people keep pushing pants, but you don't want them, Bloomers look to me like very full underwear, and a sarong always reminds me of the beach. Juno

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Juno

That is true, which is why I am trying to concoct a Bermudas-with-overskirt type outfit that doesn't look too strange.

ROTFLSHIWMP!!!!! Oh, I absolutely LOVE this idea. I wonder if they sell that fabric anywhere.

It's okay. That's why I asked this on a sewing newsgroup and not a bicycling newsgroup, but I don't mind when threads take on a life of their own. That is what Usenet is for, isn't it?

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Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

Oooh, that's an idea that I hadn't thought of, and I even have a couple of pairs of black tights around here, too. Might be a bit hot for summer, and we still have weather in the 80s right now so it might even be a bit hot for now, but I bet it would work.

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Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

It's a Trek R-200 - another CLWB. I've had it since 1999. My target for this year was 1,000 miles (I started in january but really didn't make significant progress until March due to the weather). I've got

978.6 as of this evening. I should hit my goal tomorrow. (MTB mileage is separate and I don't keep track of that).

Don't be afraid to wear your own designs, even if there's nothing similar out there. I tend to be a little squeamish when debuting something either completely new or modified to fit my needs, but never once have I gotten a negative comment, and I've always gotten tons of compliments by those who've taken notice. And most people won't notice your clothes, especially if you're on a 'bent - they're too busy ogling the bike. Making the top and bottom, over and under layers in a solid dark color will also help.

And, just a thought... I've ridden both a motorcycle and a diamond frame bike in an ankle length full skirt. Bend over, reach between your legs and grab the hem of the back of your skirt. Bring it up between your legs and tuck it under your belt to secure it. It keeps the hem of the skirt safely out of the chain and the wheels, and allows you to straddle a bike while keeping your legs decently covered from knee to crotch.

Kathleen

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Kathleen

Well, I used to make totally weird stuff when I was a teenager and still sewing under my mom's "find the cheapest thing that will do and use it" mentality, and I have no sense of what's currently in fashion or not, so I don't want to inadvertently create something that will make me appear to be flying a flag of the type of crowd I don't go around with, nor something that would look inappropriate. That's why I asked for a few extra eyeballs.

Well, I have black and brown poly/rayon gabardine that should do well, so I think I have that covered.

Hmmm, wonder how that would work on my 'bent.

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Melinda Meahan - take out TRAS

Joy, if you're ever in need of inspiration for gorgeous pant and long shirt outfits, rent "Bride and Prejudice". I enjoyed the movie but the clothing was simply wonderful. What a treat for the eyes. I rented it a second time just to oggle the outfits.

Kathleen

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Kathleen

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