Which machine for heavy duty?

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Hi,
I need to buy a sewing machine for making / repairing boat covers, sails,
awnings etc.
Home occasional use but some of the materials are quite tough coated waterproof
materials.
 I think I would need zig-zag for sails.

would these be ok... e.g. Janome New home seems  to come up a lot, also
Husqvarna, Singer.
Any advice on what to look for would be much appreciated. Thanks
Colin

Re: Which machine for heavy duty?
Colin wrote:
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Best I can advise it to TEST them on the fabrics and layers you will  
be sewing. 150 to 200 BP sounds pretty low for a genuine heavy duty  
sewing machine, even used. I can run nine layers of heavy denim  
through my 1960 Singer 401A, but I would never ask it to do  
Sunbrella or real sailcloth for more than a few short seams.  .

There are some HD commercial machine (much more likely than home  
machines to be sturdy enough) which would be where I would be  
looking, but I'm not in that market.

--  
Beverly
http://www.ickes.us


Re: Which machine for heavy duty?
On Wednesday, March 4, 2015 at 6:17:21 PM UTC-6, BEI Design wrote:
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AMEN!  

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On 3/4/2015 3:44 PM, Colin wrote:
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You don't need a zig-zag for sails.  Sails have been used for centuries,  
long before there were zig-zag, or even straight-stitch sewing machines.  
  My old vet used a straight-stitch treadle Singer for his sails.  I  
think he had a Model 15.  That's an old, cast-iron machine that can sew  
just about anything.

Of course, if you want to spend more money, you could find a modern  
heavy duty Sailrite or something of that sort.
--  
Pogonip

Re: Which machine for heavy duty?
replying to Pogonip , Colin wrote:

Hi, Thanks for the replies,

I was just assuming I need zig zag since all my sails are sewn up like that.
Do you know why they use zig zag??


experiment. If its going to cost much more I will continue to take the jobs to
the local sail lofts.
It would be great to test them before buying but unless I can find somewhere
local,
the fuel to get there would cost nearly as much as the purchase price.. so i may
as well just take a gamble...


By the way... I have a Bernina 807 which I inherited from my aunt a couple of
years ago

(from the same vendor that is selling  the heavy duty machines). so maybe it
isn't so rubbish?
 I have now seen some posts elsewhere which suggest they are quite good machines
Maybe not up to the heavy duty stuff?
Good for spinnakers though ;-)

Colin





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"Colin"  wrote in message  

Hi,
I need to buy a sewing machine for making / repairing boat covers, sails,
awnings etc.
Home occasional use but some of the materials are quite tough coated
waterproof materials.
I think I would need zig-zag for sails.
I have seen plenty of semi-industrial machines for around £150 to £200 on
ebay -
would these be ok... e.g. Janome New home seems  to come up a lot, also
Husqvarna, Singer.
Any advice on what to look for would be much appreciated. Thanks
Colin


It is VERY important that you use a heavy duty needle in the machine of your  
choice.  I use a size 16 or 18 for hemming jeans.
Barbara in Florida

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replying to Bobbie Sews More , Colin wrote:

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Thanks Barbara,
I bought some size 16 leather needles and size 16 woven round point.
Not sure which is best for sails.. perhaps the round point?

I didn't know you could get size 18 I will look for some of those then.

Colin


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Some points.
No such thing as a semi industrial machine. That is the Ebayers way of  
describing an older heavy weight home sewing machine.
The proper machine for the wok you describe is actually an industrial  
walking foot machine.
There is nothing more expensive than spending money on something that will  
not work for the job you intend to do.
--  
Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine
18 Dingman Rd Sand Lake, NY 12153
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Re: Which machine for heavy duty?
replying to Ron Anderson , Colin wrote:
Thanks for the advice Ron,

unfortuantely However, at the weekend i decided to buy one as they are fairly
cheap... a Janome New Home
i am hopeful that it will at least do some of the smaller repair jobs...
but probably not major jobs such as the luff bolt rope of our Genoa which is
really really tough.

Actually I had worked out that they are just old sturdy machines from the time
before plastic was invented..
 in fact the ebayer  in question said as much

What is a walking foot?  It has one apparently. is that good?

It also has a zipper foot... I have loads of kit with broken zips ;-)

Colin




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:What is a walking foot?  It has one apparently. is that good?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJCdll6Nb_c

What you have is a fidldly attachment that's marginally useful on
certain pieces, and actively a hinderence most of the time.  

:It also has a zipper foot... I have loads of kit with broken zips ;-)

Your machine is probably up for inserting zips on most lightweight
kit.  It might, or might not, do typical boat canvas stuff (covers,
etc), depending on lots of things.  




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sig 95

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But, an absolute requirement when sewing leather!  So sez an
acquaintance who sews motorcycle leathers for a living.  

nb


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:>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJCdll6Nb_c

:> What you have is a fidldly attachment that's marginally useful on
:> certain pieces, and actively a hinderence most of the time.  

:But, an absolute requirement when sewing leather!  So sez an
:acquaintance who sews motorcycle leathers for a living.  

An actual walking foot -- which is a type of machine, not an
attachment -- is very useful when sewing leather, indeed.  


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sig 71


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Oh yes.  A walking foot dedicated commercial machine.  Not some
pro-sumer attachment.  Bring $$$$.  ;)

nb


Re: Which machine for heavy duty?

:> An actual walking foot -- which is a type of machine, not an
:> attachment....

:Oh yes.  A walking foot dedicated commercial machine.  Not some
:pro-sumer attachment.  Bring $$$$.  ;)

Singer 111 and clones sell for about 500 or 750 around here.  


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sig 98

Re: Which machine for heavy duty?
On 3/10/2015 2:07 PM, notbob wrote:
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Shoot.  I wish you guys were closer.  I have an old Thompson Walking  
Foot portable gathering dust in my basement sewing area.
--  
Pogonip

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where do you live?

nb

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On 3/10/2015 7:28 PM, notbob wrote:
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Nevada.  In the wiiiiiide open spaces.
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Pogonip

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