which machine singer 620 or 404

I'd go for the 404, just my personal preference and you would have more options, especially if you have another machine you could wind the bobbin on but even if you don't.

I'd go with the 620. I have a Singer 615 and I love it.

The 404 is wonderful too (I have about 4 of them at present, I keep finding them), but it is a straight stitch only machine so won't give you as much flexibility.

-Irene

Both.

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620 or404>>

thanks for the quick response.....I'll test drive this week. The 620 looked really good...but the 404 seemed rusty..... thank you again for info vn

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Well, that's your decision right there, isn't it?

620 in

condition bobbin

quilting.

if owning both were out of the question ...

I would say the 620, if it truly has metal gears throughout, is a sound and more versatile choice. the 620 offers ZZ and chain-stitching :) if you would use such things.

**although** i will add Touch and Sew machines have a bad rep on being finicky/sensitive and it takes some patience to adjust/setup those Touch and Sew machines. Many complain about the bobbin winding system *BUT* i have found when properly adjusted they are little champs.

I have 5 different but similar Touch and Sew machines and each one has its own personality ;)

I think the 404 is considered a better quality machine and is a great machine but it is straight stitch only and it does make a fine SS at that.

robb

It's most likely surface rust. Rust can easily be removed.

I've had about 10 404s, am down to 4 at present. One was frozen solid; a kerosene soak (remove motor, bobbin wheel, etc) freed it up and it ran perfectly.

Still, for a back up machine the 620 is my choice simply because it has more features. Even if zig zag isn't necessary now, if your primary machine ever goes in for repair or maintenance, at least you'll have something that does more than a straight stitch.

-Irene

Yes, and the only other thing I'd add (and this is from having 10 T&S models of which 7 work perfectly so far - still need to mech on the others) is to make sure the upper thread paths (i.e. thread guides, between tension discs) and the hook/bobbin areas on the T&S are clean (no gunk build up, for example, from interfacing glue) and totally debris (thread, lint) free.

The nature of the wind in place bobbin makes the process a bit more dependant (and thus 'touchy') on unrestricted thread movement than with other machines.....if the thread paths, both upper and lower hinder smooth thread flow in any way, problems ensue.

-Irene