White model 710

Hi all - sorry if this is off-topic - I just found a White 710 (Japan circa 1980 ?) in excellent shape and would like to hear from anyone with good or bad experience or tips. It came with owners manual & some accessories. I have tried it out - seems ok - but a little noisy - I am accustomed to my quiet old Elna. Thanks ; John T.

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hubops
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A good oiling and cleaning might help with the noise. Barbara in FL

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Bobbie Sews More

It didn't need any cleaning - it was either very well-serviced or very lightly used through it's 32 years... or perhaps the Thrift Store had a guy clean it ? I put a bit of oil in the 4 marked oil-spots, but it didn't really help the noise issue. Perhaps it's just the nature of this machine ... noisier than my old Elna but not quite as noisy as my wife's new Janome ... All the stitches seem to work ; minor tension adjustment ; new needle ; I might even try the button-holer - if I get really adventurous :-) The manual also shows how to sew-on buttons - is this something that people do with their machines ? I always thought that buttons would be hand-sewn. It came with some-sort-of pattern-marking accessory ? that I can't figure-out ..

8 inches long; cantelevered/swivel hinged thingy - knurled knob opposite small chalk marker ... labeled DRITZ made in USA pat pending. .. probably obvious - once you know what it's used for ! Thanks ; John T.

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hubops

Four marked spots does not sound like a thorough oiling, but I am not familiar with that machine.

Ping Ron!

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BEI Design

I pulled free-arm cover and only found perhaps one additional oil-point ... The top cover might reveal more .. ? ... or do I need to flip it over and pull off the bottom end ? John T.

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hubops

That's a question for Ron Anderson, he's a regular here:

Ron Anderson A1 Sewing Machine

18 Dingman Rd Sand Lake, NY 12153
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BEI Design

Right you are Beverly, not even close.

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Ron Anderson

All the covers should come off. A professional service is recommended. It will never likely be a quiet as the Elna.

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Ron Anderson
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Thanks, Ron - your input is always valued. I'm just reluctant to pay a professional to clean & oil a $ 50. machine that I'm going to give to a good home. I'll just pass it on - it works fine as is. I guess I was just looking for any specific advice -

- for this specific machine - good or bad. Thanks ; John T.

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hubops

I'm just curious, would you do that (just pass it on) with an inexpensive car? The recipient may not have the funds to have it properly serviced either.

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BEI Design

IMHO, it's apples and oranges. If you're giving a sewing machne to a "good home," like the nifty old Swing 'N Sew I was given via Freecycle, and there turns out to be expensive problems the recipient can't afford (certainly let them know of any known issues upfront), it's easy enough for them to give it to someone else who wants it for parts or to tinker with it, or simply just junk it. A lemon car is far more complicated and expensive to get rid of.

I was very fortunate. The lady who offered me the machine had me come over and took the time to set it up and show me the various features and the basic workings - very kind of her. She also was forthcoming about how she couldn't get the tension adjusted properly, and that it would need a professional adjustment. Certainly worth the apx. $15 the local repair shop quoted me.

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Diva Magenta

I don't quite understand the comparison with used cars - but I figure that this machine is very clean & working well - I'll look for any other simple oiling opportunities .. and pass-it-on . ( or a spare machine for M'Wife ! ) My limited experience with Elna was that the 35 year old shuttle gear would fail - and the part alone was $ 40. plus tax ... ... another $ 125 plus tax to pay someone to fix it. So gifting a nice old Elna to someone on fixed income might not be such a nice gift ... That's why - originally - I was looking for advice specific to the White 710. ... Are there known problems ? parts availability issues ? Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks ; John T.

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hubops

I can tell you the plastic hook drive gear on that model is also prone to breakage. You might reconsider the place that is charging you $40.00 for $15.00 gear. But $125.00 installed would be a fair price.

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Ron Anderson
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I got a price of $ 20. US plus $ 15. shipping to Canada. for the Elna Star 62C gear - my local guy was $ 40. A saw-off. I changed it myself & got lucky - it worked fine. I suspect that the olde Swisse Elna machines are a little-more-worthy of spending a few bucks on .. ? ... still just learning about this White, from Japan. Thanks for the reply - any advice is appreciated. John T.

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hubops

------------------- John, do as you were thinking--flip it over, open it up. (4 screws on the b ottom, sometimes hidden under rubber foot pads) Check the inner gears to se e if they need an application of white grease. Don't use oil on the gears. White grease is a very clean lubricant, and may well cut down on the noise issue. Cea

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cea

Thanks for the input, Cea. John T.

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hubops

I have one that I used for 30 years until i broke the needleplate. Been lookong for another forever. Try a new needle and set the timing or better yet- sell it to me

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blackwolf623
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Hi All ;

I got this lovely old (1980) White 710 out - after sitting unused - for quite a while ... it seemed a bit stiff to hand-turn it - so I oiled it up - spinning free now - but - now it refuses to stitch at all ! ? Everything obvious has been checked ; the hook is turning ; it picks up the bobbin thread - but sometimes takes 3 or 4 tries .. feeding fabric fine ; sounds fine ; new needles ; threaded & re threaded correctly ; Any suggestions for a do-it-yourselfer ? Is the timing slightly off ? Any quick check / adjustment ? Could the hook drive gear be broken/damaged - .. and still driving the hook ? Thanks in advance. John T.

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hubops

Is the needle in correctly and new? The hook to needle relationship may also be off. Then the needle has risen 2 mm above bottom dead center the point of the hook must be central to the needle and just above the eye.

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Ron Anderson
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Thanks so much for the reply, Ron. I'll try to check the hook - needle relationship - I know this is a critical and delicate measurement. What does "central to the needle" mean ? .. the upper thicker body of the needle ? Thanks ; John T.

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