Sewing thick upholstery leather ?

Hi, I have a Consew 29 leather sewing machine, mine is motor driven. See right at the bottom of the page.

Have been trying to sew 5.5oz "upholstery" leather, yes I know its heavy...more like chap leather but thick and heavy is he whole point of my project so I don't want to go much thinner. The leather is very loose and soft and the machine has no problems with it.

Now the problem is the seams. There are areas where two or even three pieces meet and must be sewn together. In keeping with common practices and good workmanship the pieces must be folded so leather back side and edges are hidden from view, and this results in as much as

6-7 layers of leather that the needle has to punch trough...and NOW the machine is getting into trouble. Problem is that the "pile" of layers tend to get out of alignment as the machine is working it. Have tried clamping the seams with large alligator clamps, and it does help somewhat, but anyhow these seams which can be up to 1/2" thick is just too hard and plain ugly.

What can be done about this? I guess the leather will have to be skivered (thinned down) at the seams, maybe to less than half the thickness. Have tried using a couple of those hand skiver tools, but these are probably meant for that hard vegetable tooling leather, but my leather is very soft and stretchy and they just won't cut it. Maybe one of those crank or electric leather skiver machines?? I don't have one, and buying one just to find out if it works is a tad too expensive...

Any help greatly appreciated.

E.K

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Gnome
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The 29 class machines are ok up to about 1/4" after that they get funny. They are a top feed only, handy for some things like boot top designs but not so good for heavy leather. For that you would be better of with a compound feed walking foot machine in the heavy class. Skiving may help. Perhaps you can find someone local that can do a few runs for you as you said an expensive guess to find out.

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Ron Anderson

I tried sewing some more scrap tonight, and you're right...the 29 is a PITA. It wandres off and keeping a straight seam is next to impossible...on leather we get permanent holes on the first try and only one chance to get it right.

I'm not an expert (in fact a complete novice) but what I think is needed here is an industrial walking foot machine WITH bottom feed. And one that is able to sew the heaviest upholstery and bag/luggage leather. Other than that I don't know.

Can you recomend something that is well suited for this sort of thing ?

E.K

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Gnome

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Ron Anderson

Looks like I'll be getting a new machine soon, was about to order but I'm not sure the 3000 is the right one for the things that I (may) need to do. E.g if sewing a jacket there is a 'problem' with the sleeves... sewing around 'em (circumference) is no problem on most machines but how about along the sleeve?? In such a case one would have to feed up the machine arm, right? And this requires something like the 4011 ? Or maybe a jacket is such a complicated undertaking that several specialized machines are needed? What do you think? E.K

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Gnome

I once worked in a Jacket planet. Depending on the style up to 5 different machine used on any one jacket. Perhaps we need to take this private. My contact info is below

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Ron Anderson

Was that in our solar system? Sorry Ron, I just couldn't let that one go by me. Juno

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Juno

We always knew Ron was out of this world, didn't we?

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Pogonip

I second that!

Doreen in Alabama

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Doreen

The Jacket Plant was, but I am not sure I am at times ;)

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Ron Anderson

That's okay, there's lots of time I'm not sure if I'm on this planet. Juno

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Juno

Yep, he's an absolutely Stellar guy!! :)

Sharon

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mamahays

Well...5 machines may have something to do with streamlining the production... in any case the 29-4 with its rather unique universal feed could replace at least two of those machines. Have looked at setting out the sewing job to pros, awaiting reply.

In the meantime I had a closer look at this old brute and have indentified what I think is the main problem (for the time being). It sews dead straight up and down the arm, but sewing 'normally' across the arm causes the seam to crawl to the left at about 5-10deg angle...always! E.g when sewing a 2nd parallel seam to the right and aligning the foot parallel to the 1st seam the 2nd seam will creap towards the 1st. Initially I figured it was the thread that was pulling the needle to the left as it went trough the work, but after adjusting the machine so there is zero tension when the needle pierces..and it still crawls left...I think that can be ruled out. Have also tried different needles, same result.

Any idea what is causing this and how to fix it ?

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Gnome

Yes you are putting to much material under the foot. Something has to give and the material is the weakest link. That machine is a shoe patch machine not intended for the work you are doing.

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Ron Anderson

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