Two warnings and a tip.

Heavy sigh...

I've seen this mistake a thousand times. Literally. DON'T FORWARD WARNINGS UNLESS YOU CHECK THE ACCURACY

It takes 10 seconds to do a google search, using the string

"live is beautiful" Microsoft virus

and Bingo - it says hoax hoax hoax over and over. This hoax was started in 2002.

That's 5 years ago!!!!!!!

ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS investigate before you cry wolf. Please.

(sound of pulling hair from head. It's not very loud, as there's not much hair left.)

Carry on, gang...

That is, of course, assuming that you don't consider mass-emailing that float around with several hundred e-mails off them from a half-dozen forwarding attachments virus-like...

Since I'm the guy offering Longworth-style chuck plates right now, is that what prompted this warning, or is this specifically in regard to center-marking guages? I don't have any interest in being blindsided by a lawyer or three when a simple e-mail or phone call could probably clear it up!

Of course, anyone who knows of or can make a solid claim of patent infringement should let me know, and I'll refund the deposits I have received for the plates and forget making them- but it seems like fair use to me, as the plans are all over the internet and published in magazines! :)

Hi Prometheus

Prometheus the brouhaha was about the patented Oneway centre marker, it just got overblown IMO.

The next is as I recall it, The longworth chuck was devised by an Australian and had shown it at the wood turners club he belonged to, and was in the process of writing a how to make it for other wood turners, but he never finished it, died of cancer I think it was, then someone from the wood turners club set out and finished it, and then it got put on the net, for all to use, to the best of my recollection, there were some improvement/changes added by others and now there are several sites that show the plans on how to build them, and also some do have them for sale, I would say you are pretty safe making them IMO.

Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo

were some improvement/changes >added by others and now there are several sites that show >the plans on how to build them, and also some

I sure think Leo is right. Those plans IN DETAIL have been around as long as I can remember. Posted on websites (Fred's), passed around freely on many different sites and in many different variations. At one time there was even models that were made from high quality aluminum plates, but that link has long expired.

I wouldn't worry about making them at all.

Robert

No need to SCREAM YELL BITCH AND COMPLAIN AT THE TOP OF YOUR LUNGS.

I haven't seen that many caps in a post since the last bitch fight on rec.woodworking.

And I am not sure Arch started a riot. FWIW, I have plenty of hair left... I have a tendency to take these things in context.

I learned long ago that not all are as fluent in aspects of our everyday lives as some. He might have helped someone if this had been a real deal. Not everyone keeps up with the current hoaxes, scams, schemes, etc., and more importantly some don't know how to look for the information (I know, it is pretty easy) to validate some of them.

For me, I took Arch's warning as a well meaning heads up, nothing more. If interested, I would vet any warning myself to my own satisfaction, not relying on his three sentence blurb. Apparently you do the same. But as a point on Arch's side, I had forgotten about that LIB thing a long, long time ago. For all I knew, someone had resurrected the name with a whole new scheme behind it.

Having my eyeballs pulled out through my rectum by some punk ass vandal that snuck a virus by my antivirus ware, my firewall router and my network administrator before, I learned that vigilance is the key. It was a time consuming and expensive lesson.

So what if Arch was given incorrect infomation? No need to scream like a mashed cat and chastise someone that took the time to post a three sentence warning. A simple response to ease his mind and maybe instruct him on your style of vetting would probably have been more satisfactory to you both.

If you need to, fire away. I will have my ear muffs/decapitalizer on.

Robert

Good deal- that was my understanding of the situation, I just figured I'd ask in case it was a warning in disguise based on something I hadn't heard of!

I wasn't sure either. No harm in that.

That's why I posted the exact search string I used to verify it.

I've been warning people for 30 years. If more people did so, and LOUDLY, then perhaps the practice of forwarding hoaxes would stop.

As a rule of thumb if the message tells you to

1) forward it on to every one in your address book or 2) send it on Quickly or 3 is reported in the media (and you have not already seen the media report) DO NOT as it is a HOAX. These messages work to clog the information highway with useless information and are just another form of chain letters or SPAM if everybody actually sent these on the e-mail system would be brought to its knees.

Urgent warnings are at times reported in the NATIONAL media but the best ways of avoiding Viruses is to have a GOOD ANTI VIRUS AND TO KEEP IT UP TO DATE with Virus definitions. as for finding out about virus hoaxes go here

:-)

There still are - I bought one of these and am very happy with it:

...Scott

Hi Bruce, Thanks for your expert and friendly advice. It was very helpful and should prevent my posting any more unchecked and misinformed input to rcw. I had no idea of the damage my misguided efforts could do to this fine newsgroup.

After my trip to the woodshed, I meekly visited Snopes and found that the hoax was originally circulated in Portuguese and later translated into English. Never did trust those Portuguese--English translations. :)

Snopes did warn me to be careful re _all PowerPoint presentations, so I take comfort in my awful warning not being _totally inaccurate. I don't know how to check on Snoke's validity, so I best not post another unchecked PowerPoint warning. I heard that "Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely". Hope that's not another hoax.

I truly regret having contributed to your balding. My tip re the concrete anchors apparently got lost in the consternation about my naive warning. I hope my tip was acceptable, even if it wasn't helpful.

Arch

Hi Arch

Yes I think you're right anything MS is not to be trusted :->, has also something to do with the corrupt and power thing you're mentioning I think ;-)))

As for the sleeve anchor, it was a YES that would work, I know I do have one of those somewhere ;-)), and I will keep that possible use stored right there with that, never seemed to need a driver that would drill concrete or wood, but one never knows, ;>))

Have fun and take care Leo Van Der Loo