Ultra thin lines in segmented turnings...

"Bob Crawford" wrote: (clip) Anyone ever considered taking a large stack of Newspapers, cutting pieces

No, but I did once turn a bowl on the inside of a book. When the book was closed, it looked just like any other book. When it was open, there was a bowl-shaped cavity. I've been accused of using it to keep my stash in there, but I deny it. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Sometimes I wish my mind had a brake pedal... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That would be a waste.

there is stuff called "fish paper" that segmented turners use for highlighting lines - available in many colors

Don't.

Veneer works nicely, and comes very thin. You can hit it with aniline (or other, I suppose) dyes if you want colors the wood doesn't grow.

Funny, as a teenager, I had a similar book! ;)

Bob

Thanks Bill, I'll look into it. I thought the 2 for a buck thing was great, especially for us retired folks with a slim income! lol

Bob

More like "CAN'T".. lol

Bob

I've not had the opp to work with veneers, yet. A bit cost prohibitive for a retired guy. Soon though.

Bob

A guy I know used a beer can between segments. Looked nice.

Brass shim stock

Colored plastic binder cover

Find an old dresser out on the curb. I removed a top from a dresser and soaked it in a bath tub of hot water and soaked off the veinier than dried it between two boards with clamps.I used the veinier to build a cathedral radio cabinet for my sterio . Looks real and sounds great.

THE SHADOW KNOWS !!! Jerry

Also check used furniture places for good wood or veneer that has been painted over. Many years ago I found a little painted dresser that turned out to have a birds eye maple veneer top.

LD - Middle name 'Skinflint'

CDs?

They're damn brittle... Definitely practice on scrap first.

for ultra ultra thin you can use a magic marker - just colour the wood before you glue up the segments and the line will show in the finished product.

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:03:40 -0500, Bob Crawford wrote (in message ):

First, don't consider a brake pedal.

Second, please be aware that paper that is glued up between two wood surfaces is an old and well-used method of splitting apart a turning. Yes, it looks great, but it is also a weakness in your product. (I use brown paper grocery bags) If its job is to just sit and look pretty, that is fine. If someone decides to use this thing, it may be liable to damage.

As another poster here suggested, dye the surface (that will be glued later in making up your woodblock) and when the project is turned, a very thin colored line will show up. The glued (and dyed) surface is wood-to-wood, and so will be as strong as any other glued part of your project.

tom koehler

Actually, I'd question the "as strong" part. The adsorption of the dye reduces the adsorption of the glue. Maybe a very minor amount, maybe more.

If any reader has done some sort of testing on this, or knows of some tests, I'm sure we'd all be interested in the results. I mean testing with measuring equipment, not just "it worked (or didn't) for me."

On Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:31:50 -0500, Larry Blanchard wrote (in message ):

You are right to question the "as strong" part, of course. My thinking was that a wood-to-wood glue joint would be stronger than a wood-to-paper-to-wood joint. My only experience in this being my own use of paper in a glued joint for the purpose of easily splitting a turning into two pieces along the paper joint.

The nature of the dye effects on a colored wood surface will depend entirely on the nature of the dye, I guess. I have used aniline dyes - either powderd and mixed with alcohol, or liquid and diluted with alcohol - to color wood. The alcohol allows the coloring agents to penetrate and disperse in the wood fibers, and then the alcohol evaporates, leaving the color behind.

It is true that some stains use various oils as a vehicle to carry the coloring agents, and a volatile solvent to thin out the vehicle. When the solvent evaporates, the vehicle and coloring agents are left behind. The oil will polymerize, and form a thin skin, which will affect how the glue would stick.

I should have specified an alcohol-type liquid for carrying the colorant, as is often used in some commonly available dyes.

I earnestly hope I have cleared my intentions in this thread without rankling any of the contributors here. tom koehler