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I did not know Walmart sold Rikon lathes!  There was an ad on a webpage I w
as on.  It was for Rikon lathes.  16x42 sliding head variable speed lathe.  
 $2070.  It was from Walmart.  The idea of buying a big lathe from Walmart  
seems really weird to me.  I realize they are just advertising products fro
m a vendor who has contracted with them.  Just like Amazon does.  But still
, $2000 lathes from Walmart is weird.

Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
On Thu, 15 Mar 2018 23:38:05 -0700 (PDT)

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on the face i agree it does seem weird but the game is about logistics
in other words walmart will sell you anything you want to buy and
take whatever they can get of the transaction  

would be interesting to know how much they make on a lathe sale


but actually that is changing too at least globally as other countries
start to come down on illegal activities of the amazons and others

amazon was raided overseas recently as they were doing bad things

it seems the trade war that has been going on forever is now turning
into something closer to a hot trade war

interesting times for sure









Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
Delivered to your house.  Or delivered to the local one near you.

Handy.  They have Big Trucks and have the ability.
Martin


On 3/17/2018 10:34 AM, Electric Comet wrote:
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Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
On Wednesday, April 4, 2018 at 10:40:21 PM UTC-5, Martin Eastburn wrote:
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When I clicked on the link, it said the following:

"Sold & shipped by Factory Authorized Outlet Return policy

Free shipping
Arrives by Monday, Apr 16

Free pickup not available from this seller"

So based on that I assume its shipped to your house free.  They don't even  
give you the option of being shipped to the nearest WalMart store.  Makes s
ense because it is a third party seller using the WalMart website to sell.  
 Just like Amazon.  For fun I looked up the same lathe on Amazon.  Its $5 c
heaper on Amazon.  Free shipping also.  Probably the same third party selle
r at both Amazon and WalMart.

It just seems weird to buy a $2000 lathe at WalMart.




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Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:33:33 -0700 (PDT)

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what is price for lathe if you pick it up from lathe store

that is the interesting part of the equation because shipping is never
without cost

there is the rub

and it comes out that amazon are engaged in shipping fraud
not a surprise

and the tax payer pays the bill so amazon has been subsidized by  
us tax payers









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On 2018-04-06 2:40 PM, Electric Comet wrote:
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No, that's not so! The US PO makes a small profit, but a profit  
nevertheless, from Amazon. Their contract is to deliver over the "last  
mile" and the AMZ bar codes on the packages allow the PO to optimize  
delivery that makes it profitable.
Johnboy.


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Nobody in this country got rich on his own.  You built a factory--good.
But you moved your goods on roads we all paid for.  You hired workers we
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Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
On Sat, 7 Apr 2018 16:42:02 -0600

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can you post a link to this contract with the specifics of this contract

and what happens to the profit you allege when the last mile is ten or
twenty miles  

also you still have not said who pays for this free shipping that the
post office makes money on









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On Friday, April 6, 2018 at 3:40:43 PM UTC-5, Electric Comet wrote:
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Agree with John response.  Amazon negotiates a shipping price or accepts th
e standard price from the USPS.  No one forces the USPS at gun point to shi
p for the price they quote or negotiate.  They decide.  And I suspect they  
do make a small profit on every item they handle.  But the USPS has billion
s or trillions of overhead costs to cover.  So most likely they would need  
to double or triple or quadruple the shipping cost on every item they touch
 to cover the costs they incur.  The Postmaster General sitting on his big  
wide butt in Washington DC probably gets paid a quarter million a year.  Pl
us a retirement package of 125% of his highest pay.  Lot of overhead with t
he USPS.

As far as the US taxpayer subsidizing Amazon, we also subsidize every minim
um wage worker at Walmart and McDonalds and everywhere else.  Most of those
 employees receive Medicaid and food stamps.  Yet work full time jobs for t
he biggest most profitable companies in America.  How about that!  But we s
ure as hell don't want to increase the minimum wage to get these full time  
workers off food stamps.  Better to keep corporate profits up and steal tax
payer money to send welfare to the workers at the most profitable companies
 in America.

Acme Tools, the Tool Crib of the North successor, has a store in my town.  
This lathe is $2000 from them.  I could pick it up at the store downtown.  
But add in 7% sales tax.  So really $2140.  $75 MORE than from Amazon or an
y of the other free shipping internet sellers.  Assuming they are not colle
cting sales tax.  Not sure about this now days.

On big ticket items, the sales tax can easily be a price killer.

Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
I get boxes from Amazon that are marked FedEx and that brown box UPS.  
Both reduce their cost by having someone who drives there every day to  
deliver it.  Not all is Amazon ,
some of it is by the two delivery companies that have contracts also.

Part of the problem with the post office is their pension that is a  
monster.  They have to pay it and the Fed used to.  And the Fed made  
them '''independent''' sorta.  But they still issue passports.....sell  
stamps....money orders....collect customs and the like.

Martin

On 4/10/2018 6:37 PM, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:
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On Friday, March 16, 2018 at 1:38:06 AM UTC-5, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:
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 was on.  It was for Rikon lathes.  16x42 sliding head variable speed lathe
.  $2070.  It was from Walmart.  The idea of buying a big lathe from Walmar
t seems really weird to me.  I realize they are just advertising products f
rom a vendor who has contracted with them.  Just like Amazon does.  But sti
ll, $2000 lathes from Walmart is weird.


Correction, correction, correction!  Toolnut is selling this lathe for $198
9 with free shipping.  So Amazon is trying to steal my money by selling it  
for $2065.

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Don't know about your state, but Amazon collects state sales tax in my  
state.

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G Ross

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On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 7:52:57 PM UTC-5, G Ross wrote:
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e I was on.  It was for Rikon lathes.  16x42 sliding head variable speed la
the.  $2070.  It was from Walmart.  The idea of buying a big lathe from Wal
mart seems really weird to me.  I realize they are just advertising product
s from a vendor who has contracted with them.  Just like Amazon does.  But  
still, $2000 lathes from Walmart is weird.
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$1989 with free shipping.  So Amazon is trying to steal my money by selling
 it for $2065.
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I bought a pair of $80 speakers through Amazon two weeks ago.  No state sal
es tax paid by me.  And free shipping.

Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
On 2018-04-11 10:17 AM, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:
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You mean that AMZ paid the shipping and it was hidden in the cost.


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On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 11:37:12 AM UTC-5, graham wrote:
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 sales tax paid by me.  And free shipping.
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Yes.  I am well aware there ain't nothing free in this world.  Maybe everyo
ne should instead say "free shipping" is included in price of item.  And ma
ybe make it illegal for Amazon or anyone else to print "free shipping" on a
ny website.  I favor this.  We should all petition every federal and state  
official to make it ILLEGAL to put "free shipping" on anything.  I am sure  
the various truth in advertising (???) laws would allow us to ban "free shi
pping" on everything.  It is the biggest lie there is.

Re: Walmart sells Rikon lathes
There isn't free shipping.  If you are Amazon you pay shipping or you  
pay up front seed money that accrues and pays for a contract.  But you  
pay one way or another.   It becomes a paying help only when you spend a  
lot.  So the high price of Prime is a leveling charge.  It has also  
increased over the years.

Martin

On 4/11/2018 12:44 PM, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:
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On 4/11/2018 1:44 PM, snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote:
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"Free shipping" has come to mean there are no additional charges in the  
sale price.  Amazon often has different prices for the same item, like  
the free shipping price can be higher than the non-free shipping price.  
  If you are cheap, like me, you must look carefully at Amazon prices,  
checking and comparing prices/shipping/taxes.  They are a sneaky bunch.

There is a particular cookie my wife likes and she was having trouble  
finding it so she looked on Amazon.  She found the exact same box for  
$10 that the store sells for $3.  If you are not careful, Amazon can and  
will screw you big time on pricing.

I once bought a cheap lathe drill chuck on Amazon, when it came, it came  
in a box from Harbor Freight, including the HF part number.  I could  
have bought the exact same item at HF for a good bit less. The guy that  
got the money from Amazon probably ordered the item from HF and had it  
mailed right to my address?  Smooth entrepreneur there.
I believe the words are "caveat emptor"
--  
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
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On Wed, 11 Apr 2018 10:37:13 snipped-for-privacy@shaw.ca wrote:
  
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amazon rarely if ever pays for the shipping

instead they will force the seller to pay in some way

have you sold a lot on that platform

amazon abuse their monopoly position as a business model









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