OT Clarification on E-Cigs

I have never heard of e-cigarettes. But, if you can have e-sex, then I figure you can smoke an e-cig afterwards. (yeah, in bad taste but then so is most of my humor) Nightmist, I applaud you for taken ANY step to make your health better. It's hard to change a habit, especially one you've had for a long time and that you like a lot. Take me for instance, I need to stop eating the foods I most enjoy. Not gonna do it -- at least not for long enough to make a big difference. I've cut out butter (and 90% of those "lite" butter replacements), fried food, white bread (except when I eat tuna sandwiches and those MUST go on white bread), real sugar in my tea (whimper), doughnuts, cake except for household birthdays (4 a year with 3 concentrated into a three- week period in late July and early August) and so on. But I still love cookies and give in once in a while. I love good pies, and can't help myself from making a devilishly good lemon pie several times a year and eating humiliatingly big pieces.

Long way to say I admire you for taking steps to change your smoking habit. If inhaling water vapor gives you cancer then the makers of the humidifier I sleep beside will have to start putting black box warnings on the thing.

As for mice, I long ago figured out why they get cancer (all of them, and rats too). They live too damned long. Prolonged exposure to researchers. It's an obvious carcinogen.

Sunny

I'm suffering dreadfully in quitting smoking- trying to quit for the

10,000th time it seems. Are these 'e-cigs' for real or is this a joke of some kind??? If it's for real where does one get them and how do you 'learn' to use them?

I'm desperate!

Leslie & The Furbabies in MO.

Leslie: While I've got no info on the e-ciggies, I do have good wishes for you. A few weeks ago I celebrated my NINE Year anniversary of being a non-smoker by buying a special quilting book. I consider that a cool reward. I had 'tried to quit' several times and was not successful. That last time, I did not 'try to quit' ... I just declared myself a former smoker and said I QUIT. (I did not TRY, I just did it.) Maybe a siimilar promise to yourself will help. Hugs from Virginia, Pat

E-cigarettes are totally for real. And they are indeed the very thing for those of us who for various reasons have to give up regular cigarettes, but don't really want to.

I am breaking into them the sane way. Not trying to give up analogs all at once, but using the e-cig instead some of the time, and increasing how often "some of the time" is. DH is taking to them much more quickly than I am, so I reckon it varies person to person. They come in different styles and sizes, the two most basic differences are in the triggering mechanism. Some of them are breath activated, some have a button. The breath activated ones you use just like a cigarette (that you don't light), the button ones you have to hold down the button on the inhale. The button ones have an easier draw and more vapor as a rule. The breath controlled ones feel more natural and are usually smaller and lighter. Our first one was a breath controlled model, the Envy (it has a green light) I like it well, but it didn't have enough oomph for DH. So we tried the 510 from Innovapor, a button type, which he likes a lot. Inovapor is also where we have taken to buying our fluid. This month we are getting one of their Evolution models for me to try. They sell "pass throughs" for all their models, and we will be getting one for DH this month as well. E-cigs run on a Lithium Ion battery, and generally come with a charger that plugs into your USB port. A "Pass Through" lets you plug directly into your USB and thus save your battery when you are going to be sitting in one place for a while. There are already chargers that plug into your car, so I imagine that pass throughs that plug in like that are either here or coming soon.

There are a lot of forums out there that have a ton more info, and dozens of different makes of the e-cigarettes themselves.

NightMist

On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:16:32 -0500, "Leslie& The Furbabies in MO." wrote:

I have been smoking 120's so mine cost about $25 at the moment. That is at a store on the Seneca reservation, and a brand made by the Senecas. If I were to buy a carton in town here it would cost me more than $40. I understand that in NYC over on the other side of the state, prices are topping $100.

We used to smoke beedies sometimes because we had a friend in India who sent them. They cost about 10 US cents a packet. He has moved to China, and India has changed the way beedies are regulated. Nowdays they probably really are rolled on the thighs of 12 year old virgins, who get paid pennies a day when all is said and done. So alas, no more tasty beedies for us.

NightMist

I have a reputation among my friends an acquaintances as being blunt and saying what's on my mind, so here goes:

I love every one of you and value each of you individually. My father smoked. I woke up every morning of my childhood to the sound of him in the bathroom hacking up his lungs. My childhood was punctuated by accidental cig burns on the furniture, cherished heirlooms and sometimes on body parts of children who didn't watch where we sat or put down our hands.

Daddy tried hard to quit smoking, over and over. Said he couldn't do it.

On May 15, 1976, the day they told him he had lung cancer, he put down the cigs and never touched another. He said he didn't have any more longing or desire. We buried him on Labor Day that year. He never lived to see me become an adult, to walk me down the aisle, to see my sons born and watch them grow into men. I have missed him all these years, and I have never forgiven him for loving cigarettes more than he loved his life with us.

I know, this is harsh and rude and nobody asked, but I don't care. If I could bully just one person into quitting smoking it would be worth losing a dozen friendships.

Please stop. People love you.

Sunny

I guess everyone has their own time. Some are stronger than others. I was at the swap meet Saturday and a guy was bragging about his new pacemaker/heart work that cost 118K. I looked over to see him smoking a cig. In my big mouth way I told him they wasted money on him. If he had to pay directly for that operation himself I bet he would not still be smoking. I was more than a tad irritated. Taria, still missing a special auntie that died of lung cancer at 61 years. : (

(((((Sunny)))))))))))))

I know this may be none of my bizwax, but I likewise am known to be blunt, and to make an impetuous post now and then and say what I think. And I do care. Please don't think of your father's habit in terms of loving cigarettes more than he loved life with you all. Have you ever smoked? It's a horrible habit. I've heard it's *as difficult* for some people to stop smoking than to quit heroin. I believe that. You said he tried hard to quit; and I'm sure that *was* for you all. Remember, back when he started smoking, it was all different. Cigarettes weren't considered bad for you. In fact, even back when I started nicotine and coffee were rather considered portals to adulthood. Seems so odd now. Even odder when I remember back when hospital rooms had ashtrays!

Sherry

What she said.

Doc

I second this! Leslie, just throw them away, cigs, lighters, matches, ashtrays, all of it. Then Lysol/disinfect your house, get rid of the smell. Walk everyday you can. Drink lots of water. Pray. Keep busy. This is what i did for two months straight, worked for me, 12 years ago. Never went back.

I'm so glad I quit.

We'll be there for you. Give it a try.

amy in CNY