OT I have to ask again!


Seems like God is really choosing to test our family at the moment, I do
rejoice in this as the bible tells us that he gives us trials to make us
stronger! But that doesn't mean we don't need to pray, or ask others to
pray for us.
Physically, I continue to struggle, nausea is big problem, as is some
generalised pain, when I couldn't move, I was stuck with my neck in a
funny position, I'm aware from have struggled with a neck injury in the
past that there is a certain spot where nausea is a symptom, so I don't
know whether the nausea is related to that, or if it's still a drug
related problem. I'm also struggling with sleep, it's taking me a long
time to fall asleep each night, the first two nights I was home in the
middle of the night after not falling asleep, I switched my alarm clock
off, but yesterday I was convicted that regardless of how badly I slept,
I still needed to get up to spend time with God and that the alarm would
stay set, regardless. When it woke me, I hit snooze, thinking I was
turning it off, I'm praising God for the snooze button as 8 minutes
later when it went off again, I saw my error and made sure that I took
my time this morning to abide with Him.
Yesterday afternoon, my MIL fell on the stairs carrying a laundry basket
and broke her wrist, she actually seems remarkably well and genuinely
seems to be in very little pain, at first they thought she'd need
surgery, but the doctor in the ER then was pleased with how he'd managed
to set it and the hand surgeon confirmed today that the set was good and
she doesn't need surgery, though they'll check again next week.
This is a logistical problem for us as I felt I wasn't up to driving so
she was supposed to be helping out with that, I ended up deciding I'd
better try driving last night when there wasn't traffic and determined
that I was safe, even though it makes me feel bad. It also means that I
need to do all the cooking, rather than sharing it, cooking dinner last
night was a classic example of how I've been feeling in general since
this all happened, that multi tasking is very difficult for me! We
managed to get dinner, though not any vegetables, which we can deal
with! It's hard for us to get take out or buy prepared stuff as I am
wheat free and my MIL doesn't do cheese or citrus and other things that
are slipping my mind right now.
It also makes things a little tricky with childcare, just simple things
like me not carrying the baby up and down the stairs whilst I've been
feeling a bit wobbly, I now have to do, so please pray for safety. I
also have a couple of appointments where she was supposed to be watching
the baby, which could be difficult, she's ok playing with a 4 year old
by the looks of things.
My husband also got a new job on Thursday, it's a sideways move in the
same company, good for his long term career, but more of a difficulty
than a celebration temporarily as they want him in the new team straight
away, but he still has to tie up ends from the old team, so he's got
extra work to do.
Our car is displaying the maintenance required warning light, it could
be as simple as saying it's due for service, but we'll have to take it
to the dealership so they can plug it into the computer and tell us what
it is, which is a job my husband will have to do, as there is no way I
can drive either that far, or on the freeway to get there.
Another thing that doesn't effect us directly is the deaths of two
members of our old church in the UK, one an elderly lady, who's husband
had already passed on, we are able to rejoice in, though we are saddened
that we won't be able to pay our respects at the funeral on Friday. The
other was one of the elders, he was diagnosed with a chronic and rare
form of leukemia in the summer, but the prognosis seemed to be good and
they had found a match for a bone marrow transplant, but he got
pneumonia and died last night, I'm finding this much harder emotionally,
we'd prayed for him, but I regret not taking the time to send him a
word of encouragement. He leaves a wife and 5 sons, aged 20-30, we'll be
sure not to forget to send a message of condolence. Again, it's hard
being so far from where we call home and not being there to mourn with
others. A positive I can take from this is that after being here 3
years, I've finally got to the point where I feel the same connection
within our church here and would be devastated if one of the leadership
were to pass on.
I wrote up a note on facebook with details about what happened on
Wednesday, I'm Anne Rogers, with a picture of me in a red latin dance
dress if you want to friend me.
Thank you,
Anne
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Anne Rogers
Do try too keep those sleep patterns regular. It helps in the long run.
Oh, good grief! Thats just is NOT FAIR!
Sounds like at the moment you have one complete woman spread between two bodies! Maybe your husband could field the kids while you two make dinner?
One can indeed play with a 4YO but not be fit to caryy or change a baby whan one has a busted paw! Baby may just have to go with you and the people you have the appontments with will have to cope.
I understand that one. Himself works as a project manager, and changeover from one project to another, or managinf elements of two concurrently can be a bit manic.
W3e have an annoying beep telling us we need to change the break disks 'soon'. Having looked at them, Himself has determined that they are good for a few thousand miles yet as the sensor is set with two large a margin. Very annoyin BEEP! every time he switches on, mind.
This one is always going to be a hard one.
Not on facebook (I do LJ instead). Gives you somewhere to vent when you need it, and another lot of help. You sound pretty together for now, even if we know it's a fragile peace. Keep going: you're doing it right today, and that's gotta be a plus.
((((((Anne & Co))))))
Reply to
Kate XXXXXX
Dear Anne, I'm so sorry that you and your family continue to have difficulty. I hope though, that you won't forget that your well-being and that of the children is the most important focus. Sleep is so important. And when it's needed most can be the time when it's hardest to achieve. I understand how important it is to spend time in communion with God. But I would remind you that the Bible also tells us that God hears and sees what is in our hearts. Even when you're sleeping, I know that God hears what's in your heart. (The sleep you need so much is itself a gift from God, don't you think?)
Anne, you may not agree with me, but I just can't believe that your faith is being tested. I truly don't believe God works that way, piling miseries on us and then punishing us for being miserable. God made you, made the baby, loves you (and all of us) with infinite and unceasing love. When you feel that you have failed God, just remember that Grace surrounds us always and is freely given regardless of whether or not we've "earned" it. Life is hitting you hard lately. No question. But I don't believe that you have sinned or brought on a test or otherwise displeased God. You are a child of God, beautiful in his eyes, and loved eternally.
Hugs and prayers and many good wishes, Sunny (I'm on my way to your facebook page)
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onetexsun
Oh dear! I am so sorry about your continuing challenges. Glad that it does not appear your MIL will need surgery on her wrist. That is a good thing.
While you have many things you are dealing with, you do sound better than you did awhile back. The issues you mention in this post are enough to stress anybody. So, I'm sending good thoughts that things will calm down and become more manageable.
Also, just sent a Facebook friend request to you.
Best regards, Michelle in Nevada
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Michelle C.
Sunny, I'm choosing to be completely open about my faith and to be specific not vague. I really don't want to start a debate, but I feel it's probably beneficial for me to explain exactly where I'm coming from on both of these issues, knowing that many christians would still disagree with me.
On the issue of getting up at 6, I believe God calls us to abide with him daily and more recently I've been convicted that the best time for that is early in the morning, the sentiment of this is given in the story of the vine in John 15:1-11, though it's that in combination with a lot of other verses that convict me it needs to be a daily habit. The bible demonstrates people praying at all times of day, but I've noticed in myself that if I dedicate the time first thing in the morning, I also turn to him more frequently during the day!
Regarding trials, I'm feeling a little unclear theologically on some of that, I have questions for my pastor! But James 1:2-4 "Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing". So I don't think God is punishing me, He knows I can take the tests and I'm truly rejoicing that they are coming my way. You'd think that complete paralysis would be very frightening, but even before I turned to God in prayer, He was working within me to keep me calm and reminding me that He was in complete control. When I could finally speak again I was rejoicing in the experience I'd had.
Cheers Anne
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Anne Rogers
Anne, Just a thought, there is a small book that might help you, "When Bad Things Happen To Good People", by Harold S. Kushner. It helped me during a very hard time. Michelle G.
Reply to
Michelle G.
There's a very good reason why religious orders got up in the wee small ours to listen to the still small voice... If it works for you, do it.
Not sure I'd go along with that all the way, but if it helps to keep you calm when a mass of panic would be seriously counter productive, it's working for you.
I'm glad you have found a measure of calm and peace in this set of troubles.
Reply to
Kate XXXXXX
I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not quite the right combination the next day.
A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts. I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you. Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
Ginger in CA
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gaw93031
Thank you Ginger for kindly saying what others of us have been thinking. This whole thing has been so bazarre to watch unfold. I hope Anne's handlers step up and help her. She would probably be better served to have her internet removed. This kind of thing serves nobody in such a public, long lasting forum. Taria
I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not quite the right combination the next day.
A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts. I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you. Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
Ginger in CA
Reply to
Taria
I'm sure I replied to that post, I certainly remember reading it. My reply was something along the lines of us not being with Group Health, so it wouldn't have been something I could easily access.
Cheers Anne
Reply to
Anne Rogers
I've double checked, I did reply to your message, I admit I didn't say a direct thank you, but I did sign of with "cheers" which is a sign of appreciation and carried the same sentiment. I replied on Saturday having been to the ER on Friday and been sent home, so I'd already done what your sister suggested I do, there was just a timing issue, I'd posted about how bad things were on the Thursday, ended up getting checked in the ER on Friday, then received and responded to your post on Saturday. I ended up there doing exactly what your sister suggested, contacting my doctor, though as it was a Friday (she works M-Th) it was her on call cover for that weekend. I'm sorry I didn't thank you more clearly, but I felt my brief reply did cover it, that I did appreciate the info, that I wasn't in Group Health and that I had done as she suggested already.
Everything I've said on here has been the truth, I certainly haven't invented any of the drama of the last week since the severe drug reaction I had. I thought long and hard before sharing yesterday, but I really felt that our family needed all the prayer it could get. If you think I'm seeking attention, the best thing you can do is not reply. Maybe I do need attention anyway, we all do at times and we've no need to be ashamed of that, I came across this article
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in the last few days. I've received precisely one card, from an ex aunt of my husband, who has had life long struggles with depression. I'm glad his side of the family are at least talking about what is going on, my side of the family don't seem to be!
Honestly, I'm not even sure I'm mentally ill anymore, you'll probably think I'm crazy, but I believe last Saturday that God worked a miracle in my life and that all the attention should be on Him, not on me and I want to shout that from the rooftops! I shall avoid rooftops lest anyone thinks I'm about to jump off, but I'll take any other platform anyone will let me have!
Cheers and Thanks, I do appreciate you contacting your sister and I'm sorry you feel it was a wasted effort, sadly it was just information that came a few hours too late.
Anne
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Anne Rogers
Thank you Ginger. You called it. Gen
I believe that a person is made up of physical, emotional, spiritual and mental components. Each of these components have to be addressed and balanced for us to feel "our best". What works one day is not quite the right combination the next day.
A bit over a week ago I put my concerns aside, in an effort to assist you in what you had posted was deep depression and suicidal thoughts. I contacted my sister who works at the hospital near you, and posted here how to get there, who to speak with, even her name since she was available to work with you. I didn't have to do that, and neither did she. Not even a "thank you, I appreciate the effort" comment from you. Coming now it would be too late, coming after prompting from me it would not seem heartfelt. She concurred with me that you were just seeking attention and didn't want to really get help.
Ginger in CA
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Gen
Talk about weirdo's! Please keep your religion to yourself, or at least private to those that believe as you do. This discussion has been brought up before on this group, and most don't think it is a place for far out religion. I feel sorry for your family. Gen
">> Honestly, I'm not even sure I'm mentally ill anymore, you'll probably
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Gen
I read your message, Ginger. And as I recall, Anne didn't have to be part of Group Health to get the help your sister offered. Your sister was very generous in allowing her info to be posted in a public forum such as this. Anyone truly ill would jump at any source of help not pick and choose because of convenience. Anne is definitely ill whether it be PP depression or something else causing her to demand attention. Nuff said, I'm going back to my sewing machine.
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maryd
I'm sorry to see that the group has "turned" on Anne. She obviously needs help; now, whether she will accept it is another story. If she is experiencing mental problems, her view of her health is probably altered and her ability to know that she must get help and accept it is lacking. I know it's extremely frustrating trying to help someone who does not grasp that they need help. Maybe we should just be there for her. There's not much else we can do via email. I know many of us have offered prayers and advice and direct help. Other than that we cannot have to many expectations of her. God bless mental health workers, Michelle G.
Reply to
Michelle G.
Michelle,
I'm glad you addressed this because I didn't quite know how. I agree with your assessment. However, it seems to me that it is not the entire group; just a few.
Best regards, Michelle in Nevada
Reply to
Michelle C.
Some of us have a medical background and tho we believed everything at first, as time went on, it became more difficult to believe. IMO it would have been better if this had been kept in emails between Anne and those sympathetic friends, not in a quilting group.
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maryd
I couldn't agree more. I have participated less in this group the past couple of days because of my sheer disgust with the ignorance, arrogance, and unkindness some people have displayed toward Anne. The very idea that a person who is having problems with a sewing machine could be met with more compassion than a person who knows she is unstable and is expressly asking for support is repugnant to me. I hope Anne knows that she does have friends here, even though we are sometimes rendered speechless by the conduct of a few other people here.
Best wishes to Anne and all who support her, Edna Pearl
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Edna Pearl
A "medical background" does not necessarily result in an unclouded perspective. On the contrary, one of the saddest things about suffering is its tendency to harden the hearts of those around it. I have personally been the victim of outright ignorance and cruelty on the part of the medical "community," and I have PTSD because of it. I cannot trust any medical professional until they have earned my trust, and that's not easy to do. Nothing personal; I'm just saying that professing a medical background does not, and should not, earn the trust of many of us.
I was appalled to see how someone (I have puposefully forgotten who) was angry at Anne for not paying attention to some relation or friend who was a nurse, and being inadequately grateful for her advice. Talk about your arrogance.
When my mother was in the hospital for two months while they tried to figure out what was wrong with her kidney, and I held her power of attorney, one of my brothers came to me and said that he had spoken to a retired nurse who said that all kidney problems could be diagnosed and treated within two weeks. That's just bull. But it cause problems in my family because this nurse had butted in where she had no business.
Similarly, I and my SO sometimes find it necessary explain my demeanor to some nosy neighbor in a hospital room by telling them I have PTSD. Mostly, such people say something to the effect that they understand and then they mind their own business. But I have sometimes have such strangers insist that I take their name and phone number so they can share their own wisdom, impose their opinions as a nurse on me, drag me to their church, or otherwise demonstrate what fools they are.
Anne has as much right as I do to ignore the advice of strangers, mistrust medical professionals or people with "a medical background," or anyone who is unkind to her. She shows better sense than the people trying to advise her by doing so.
Just my two cents. A very well-educated and experience two cents.
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Edna Pearl

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