OT Punchneedle

Punch needling is easier, Mary. It's done with continuous wool - or fabric strips - making loops. Hooking is short lengths, pulled through a squared canvas and knotted - therefore takes longer and lasts better. It makes cut edges - more like a long haired carpety look. Definitely give a different appearance. I rather suspect that punching is more for hangings and hooked rugs wear forever on the floor.

Actually, the individual loops on hooked rugs are not knotted. You may be thinking of latch hooking.

While needlepunch is usually used for smaller (much smaller) pieces, it can be done on a larger scale.

With rug hooking, you hold the strip under the fabric and pull it up toward you with a hook. The length of the loop is determined by you. With needlepunch, you push the yarn or thread down thru the fabric with the needle. The length of the loop is determined by the setting on the needle handle. Rug hooking is often done with strips of wool; needlepunch uses embroidery floss or perle cotton.

I've d> While at a quilt show, my daughter saw a gentleman working on a rug.

You're right Joan. I was thinking of latch hooking. It was talking about two different types of 'rug' hooking that led me astray(:-).

Iris

While needlepunch is usually used for smaller (much smaller) pieces, it can be done on a larger scale.

With rug hooking, you hold the strip under the fabric and pull it up toward you with a hook. The length of the loop is determined by you. With needlepunch, you push the yarn or thread down thru the fabric with the needle. The length of the loop is determined by the setting on the needle handle. Rug hooking is often done with strips of wool; needlepunch uses embroidery floss or perle cotton.

I've d> While at a quilt show, my daughter saw a gentleman working on a rug.

I too, have done both needle punch and hooking, both with yarn. You can buy the precut yarn for hooking, but the needle punch you use skeins. For hooking you can use a "canvas" which is actually a large gridded material, not fabric. the hook goes in one hole and ot the other, making sure the little latch goes through also. You take a folded piece of yarn and place it in the hook, making sure the tales wrap over the latch, and pull the hook back through both holes. Your yarn is now securely slip knotted on your backing. Very easy - I taught my kids to do it and we all spent hours working on our projects.

The needle punch is harder and does not knot. Instead of tails you have loops for your rug. You use your punch as your "sewing machine". The fabric must be tight to get the most even punching, and the loops can easily be different sizes and get tangled until you have enough practice to do it well.

And then there is the technique known as "locker hooking" or "anchored loop rugs", which can be done with thick yarn or fabric strips. I have found it a good use for strips of quilting fabric that I don't want to use in quilts -- poly blends, the "what was I thinking fabrics", strips that are narrower than what I want to use in a quilt.

There are lots of different techniques for making rag rugs:

Julia > Actually, the individual loops on hooked rugs are not knotted. You may

Punchneedle: Done with embroidery flosses usually, a hoop, a specialized "needle" you punch through the fabric with, and fabric. Great for small projects, easily portable

Rug Hooking: Done with burlap (or similiar), fabric (wool/felt) strips, specialized needle, larger hoop. as supplies are usually bigger, not as easily portable

Lockerhooking: Done with material similar to what used to be used for latch hook but more flexible and with somewhat smaller openings, a stylized crochet hook (the back end is done to be similar to the eye of a tapestry needle), twine/rope, 1 inch strips of fabric, no hoop. Easy to do, but not as easily portable as needle punch or punch needle....

HTH, Tricia (f> While at a quilt show, my daughter saw a gentleman working on a rug.

Oh dear, care to share Tricia? Do you need some shoulders to lean on? Hope things get better, whatever the trials. KJ

Thanks KJ --

I'm gonna be giving my two weeks notice @ about 11 am Eastern Time today, but knowing the mentality at work will probably then be told to just go home and forget about working any of those two weeks.... trying to find a graceful way to do it, that doesn't involve tears or bitter comments out of me. I've never left a job under these conditions. Except for ending my teaching job, which was on good terms, I've only ever left jobs when life has necessitated it (ie I was headed back to campus at the end of the summer and couldn't continue working at my local summer job, or I was graduating and no longer qualified as a student employee to work on campus).

I need a job where if I'm not provided a framework of guidelines and procedures that my own personal judgement is acceptable and that is not the case with my current employer. Other than a few subbing jobs I don't have anything lined up but DH has asked me to strongly consider quitting anyway because it is causing more stress than it is doing good. He is right.

The individual I work for is sarcastic with anyone but customers (and once or twice I've heard her be that way with them too), she gets upset with me for doing things one way when I was never told/shown/etc the "right" way to do them, doesn't seem to appreciate the fact that I am trying to be helpful in what I am doing (such as letting her know what I discovered we were low on when I tried to restock certain areas) and not just wasting time. She doesn't seem to appreciate much of anything

-- for example, we had just two customers in the store one day (who were together) and they wanted/needed a lot of guidance on a project they were doing (needle punch) as the one gal wanted to alter the colors of the pattern almost completely and I was helping her. She made a good sized purchase (I say this only to lay teh ground work that I was working for the good of the store, not killing time) and while I was ringing her up, she quietly asked me if a certain individual was my boss and I told her yes. She asked me how long I'd been working there and I told her about 4 weeks. She was surprised at that. She went over and told my boss what a wonderful job I had done -- my boss acknowledged her but not me -- I really only know that it was a compliment because the customer told me she was going to share with my boss that I did a good job. Another time, I had received compliments on the store being creatively set up and beautiful -- I tried to share them with my boss -- her response was an erronous assumption that the customers in question hadn't purchased anything.

It's a major bummer because I like the customers, I like my co-workers, I like the things I have learned. I just don't think I can stand to stay in a job with a boss like that for only 5 cents above minimum wage. Honestly, at any wage, it's not worth my health but it would be harder to walk away from a well paying job without having something significant lined up. And my health has taken a down turn from the stress, I'm sick to my stomach nearly every work day, I'm barely eating, etc. (no, not pregnant, I know that for a fact).

So, I'm gonna see how subbing does for me for a bit...I got 3 jobs lined up in the next week and half, already have two days lined up in Nov and I am strongly considering approaching Kelly Services again. Might consider trying to restart my small business as a sideline for a bit. I could promote my tutoring services more...will have to see. I still need to improve my wardrobe for just about anything more than "just subbing" -- the local thrift stores, while there are several, didn't have what I needed in sizes I could wear.

It's hard, I feel like a quitter -- something I don't like to be. However, after a month I would have thought things would improve and they haven't, if anything, I'm "screwing up" in her eyes more and more. I can't seem to win -- I've tried figuring out a win-win tact and the only one I come up with is to quit. If I need direction from her, I'm not ready to handle things solo. If I come in and show initiative, doing stuff on my own, without direction from her, I'm wasting time and making erronous assumptions. I even scewed up by taking home the paper piecing model/sample to finish on my own time --- no one ever told me not to take the stuff home. I thought getting it done in a timely fashion would be appreciated (they are fall leaves for goodness sake, to be kitted, and there hasn't been time on shift for me to work on them for weeks -- I thought getting them done might be time sensitive. "well, that was *your* assumption" is what I got in response, as well as comments that she was "alarmed" that I had taken the needed items out of the store -- wtf?!)

Okay, thanks for listening to me ramble....Gotta go, DH's boss is giving tours of the buildign and I'm not supposed to be on his computer at the office...

type more later...

Tricia

KJ wrote:

Sounds like you're making a positive change -- that's certainly not being a quitter in my book!

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Oh, Tricia! After all your hard work, too! ((((((HUGS FOR TRICIA))))))

I wish there was a nice quilt shop over here you could come and work in!

You are doing what you have to do. You are not quitting- you are saving your sanity and your self esteem. Which is worse- getting out with your self intact or constantly getting worn and chipped away? You are better off still being able to smile and enjoy your crafting instead of having any creative feelings you have poisoned by that person. You have made a tough decision to help yourself be healthier, and I applaud you for it.

-georg

I would hope that she would ask me not to work out my two weeks notice. Anyone that rude and crude, needs a lesson taught, I would have a hard time walking out gracefully but would try to leave the lesson to someone else. I hate being so up front with people but God did make me that way and as our minister says if he ever wants to know how he is doing he will come to me because he knows I will tell him the truth and not sugar coat it any at all. I tell people all the time that when God past out tactfulness I must of been off day dreaming because I sure didn't get any and I am trying very hard to develop it.

Jacquel>Thanks KJ --

Oh, Tricia, I'm so sorry this isn't working out for you. I hope you find something much less stressful in the near future.

I'm sorry this position didn't work out for you, but don't blame you for wanting to look for something else. Good luck!

Nancy in NS

((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))

BTDT a couple of times.

I suppose I have to ask the obvious question (one DH asks of me each time I whinge about my boss) - have you spoken to her? Told her how you feel? Without bringing too much emotion into it? Perhaps she doesn't realise?

Other than that I can empathise with you and you need to do what is right for you, don't let your health suffer, a job is just a job and is not worth it.

Good luck.

So sorry! Sounds like you're probably better at her job than she is, and she's jealous. Roberta in D

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Giggle...

Well, it went well, and I'm still working the two weeks (surprise to me). As for the question someone else asked about having talked to her

-- this is not an approachable person in that regard. Better to just let it go and so I have. It has made work the past two days easier to handle knowing that I've already resigned and am doing what is right by doing the two weeks. If hours hold, I may have enough earned to cover most of the car insurance bill for the next 6 months .... hopefully!

Thanks all, I have to jet to take care of something but wanted to let you know it went well...

Tricia

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