OT: Fires in San Diego this week--LONG!

Monday morning I was in town and saw on the front page of our small town newspaper a picture of the street I used to work on engulfed in flames.

Tuesday's news brought devastation as the communities of Crest and Descanso were burned.

Thursday morning brought even more sad news. The park where I used to be a docent, where I knew every hiking trail, and where I met my husband, burned to the ground--all 26,000 acres of trees and wildlife.

I look at the picture I now have on my refrigerator of DH and I taken by friends and realize it's priceless. In the picture, the four of us (DH, myself, and another couple), were getting ready to take a hike in Cuyamaca and the trees were beautiful. There was a little bit of snow on the ground in front of us. It saddens me to think this is no more.

San Diego, among its "warts", had an amzaing diversity--you could dabble your toes in the sand on the beach and with a change of clothes and a one hour or so drive, you could be in the snow, either hiking or playing in it.

The most amazing thing about Cuyamaca Park was that it was FREE. Whether you wanted to ride a mountain bike, a horse, hike a trail, or just picnic, there were no fees. It was all free and uncrowded; unlike the beaches.

Many people, like myself, looked forward to the weekend where they would take that scenic mountain drive and end up at the Park's headquarters to obtain a map before starting out on their trek. Just walking in the 200+ year old trees and being a part of nature put life back in perspective--"rewound your clock", so to speak.

Many times DH and I wanted to live there; little did we know we would move all the way to Pennsylvania to be in mountains and trees. City life for us was closing in on us and pressing us to the limits of our patience.

I think of the Park rangers, many with young children, who lost their homes. Their lives were dedicated to preserving the Park. To hear them talk about subjects such as plant life and animals you could see it touched them deeply. And all their training they received from the Park.

The biggest loss, next to lives, I feel, was the museum at the Park headquarters. Where else could you go into a local museum for free? It was a learning museum where the exhibits were lifelike with taxidermied bobcats, owls, and even a mountain lion with her kit. Upstairs held reference material and priceless books bearing the history of the Park and early San Diego, and the Native American tribe, the Kumeyaay, who used to traverse between the desert to the east and back to the mountains, depending on the season. There was even a book written by a Kumeyaay woman who told of life on a reservation after the "White Man" came. Homes are replaceable; history, like lives, is not.

Although I left San Diego a little over a year ago, I always thought the Park would be there for others to enjoy; I enjoyed it my whole life I was there. It was San Diego's "Best Kept Secret", and for me a much better alternative than going to the beach. San Diego will not be the same.

It would somehow be easier to accept if this were a natural disaster, but to think of the foolhardiness of some individual who lit a signal flare during the middle of the Santa Ana season because he got lost shows stupidity at its highest level. I am angry, certainly not as angry as those who lost their homes, loved ones, or the Park rangers, but I will get over it.

Thanks for listening.

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Beth Pierce
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Thanks, JJ. I was just venting. You're right about losing the good friend; that's an excellent choice of words. Like the saying goes To every thing there is a season....

Thank you aga> Beth, We are all so aware of the devastation caused by these fires. You put

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Beth Pierce

I can only imagine what people in CA are going thru, I live in AZ and those of us with allergies and Asthma are DIE'ing here....

Heidi....currently living on Actifed

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Justme-in-USA

Beth,

My heart aches for you and for everyone who is out there in CA dealing with it all. My MIL works for the Forestry Service in NM. She's told us stories about people out there who will start fires just so they can get hired on as firefighters. That pays better and it's easier to get hired compared to other jobs in the area, and it's short term. Like you I am always appalled to hear that someone would intentionally (or negligently) start one of these. There is no restoring what is destroyed in one of these fires. Some things can be replaced, but even those are never the same as what was there before. And so much is lost.

The saddest part of all is that one person's stupidity has cost so many other people their lives and homes and peaceful places. I'm sure he will be brought up on charges for it. Normally, the Forest Svc. sues for the costs of fighting the fires. But that's so small in comparison to what's been lost. And there is no way that a monetary fine can replace everything.

Sharon

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mamahays

Beth, your post brought the scale of the tragedy which California is experiencing down to understandable levels, and let me mourn the loss of such wonderful places with you, even though I have never been to California. Thank you. And, if you don't write for publication, you certainly should. This post should go as a special to a national newspaper. Hugs, Cea

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sewingbythecea

Amen, Beth!! I live in Santee and was evacuated Sunday morning. The fires came to about 60 ft from our backyard before the wind blew them the other way. We were really lucky. I'm just glad the air is finally clearing up and the firefighters seem to be getting a handle on the fires.

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Lisa

My brother and sister-in-law and their two girls live in the San Francisco area. Last weekend Karen and her oldest daughter were in Oceanside to visit her family, and couldn't fly out of the San Diego airport. They had to drive to another (can't remember which one) and had a 4 - 5 hour wait. Scary place to be right now.

Sharon

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Sharon & Jack

Hi Lisa! My two sons and their dad live in Santee and i live up here in Poway. It's been a nightmare. But we're all ok and didn't lose our homes. My work is in the Poway business park and my building was surrounded, they're still clearing out the smoke. We evacuted our home then came back to no power, it's a mess. But thank God we're all ok. Mary Lou

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ml

I know what you mean. We got the smoke blown in a few days ago and the entire valley was like an ash tray. I had to go out in that mess to get the last bit's for DD's costume and was miserable beyond belief. On the bright side, I had to stay in and do some sewing. Next projects sorted out and ready.

I still need to give family a call as I have some in San Diego and we have had some problems getting through. I hope the best for all affected and I hate the loss of all the beautiful natural resources.

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Poohma

At this point, it's my understanding that the arsonists are looking at serious prison time. Arson that results in loss of life is murder.

I have friends in the San Diego area, and have been relying on daily email reports - that have come from their homes and from hotels where they've been evacuated to, and even those not displaced by the fire are severely impacted by the ash, the smoke, the water restrictions, the lack of power and the need to use as little as possible when it's on - so even those homes with air conditioning can't use it to keep the smoke and ash out. Homes and forests lost, people killed, animals destroyed. Now, of course, the smoke and ash is moving eastward to Las Vegas and the Grand Canyon. There is no sanction severe enough for those who caused this!

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Joanne

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a good map of it.

My husband and i just drove around the area, it's unbelievable to see miles and miles of blackened hills. i'm feeling.

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ml

Beth (lovely name -same as my daughter!)

Our hearts are with you. I live in Sydney, Australia and we know what it's like to have the ravages of bushfires. It's bad enough when nature causes them and even worse when it's arson. Our fire season has just started and due to the drought we've had for a few years the authorities are saying this could be the worst fire season ever.

Remember you're not alone in going through the sadness.

Viviane

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Viviane

There is no sanction severe enough for those who

My thoughts exactly. It wouldn't bring back anything; retribution is too loose a word, as well as "prosecution". Frankly, I have pictures of the person or persons who did this being burned to see how it feels. I know that's pretty stiff, but I'm still pretty angry.

I am thankful, very thankful, that those who are a part of this NG responded and are okay.

The rangers kept saying that there would be a fire coming; that they didn't know "when" but they knew it was coming, simply because they couldn't get the permits to do controlled burns in and near the Park. What a premonition...

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Beth Pierce

Thank you, Cea, for your post. It gave me bimple-dimples. I'll certainly send it on. I've been looking at other NG's (DH's) and found posts on the fire as well, but some of them don't know the scope of what has happened. Even the news doesn't discuss it much, and the online papers are always talking about Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear--the money mongers.

It's still unbelieveable, but the anger is slowly dissipating. Friends of ours out there called and said the only thing left of the museum is the fireplace. The museum was originally a home, built in the late 20's and donated to the Park in 1932 by the people who owned it as a private residence.

Anyway, enough...time to move on. Thank you again for your kind words.

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Beth Pierce

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Beth Pierce

The museum at Cuyamaca Park held priceless treasures...the Kumeyaay Indian tribe heritage was depicted...my great uncle Tom Lucas was the last full-blood Kumeyaay Indian. There were actually two books written about his life and life on the reservation. It is so sad.

Laurel...mostly a lurker

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Laurel JC

Somewhere, i have a picture of my two boys (many years ago) with the stuffed mountain lion they had in there.... sigh...

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ml

Dear Beth,

I'm sorry for the sadness you are feeling for the loss of all those wonderful treasures and the feeling of disorientation you have over your beloved home territory being destroyed.

We have friends there too. One family has been in contact throughout. They weren't in immediate danger but suffered from all the ash and smoke, as well as the grief they feel over their friends' losses. The other couple I'm really concerned about live in El Cajon right at the point where the fires were on the map - and they're elderly. Wherever they are, they aren't getting their email, so I just pray.

Yes, feeling angry is certainly appropriate. What were they thinking!!? Well, he won't be lost again for a very long time. Being a Wyoming native, I know that western children are repeatedly taught the danger of forest fires and as early as nursery school, so I wonder how his first thought was not about fire. So tragic.

Another Sharon

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