Throwing dry

Well, well, well! So you CAN throw with dry clay! I didn't believe it until I tried it, as follows:

- Clay: Soft TS stoneware, from Commercial Clay, Stoke-on-Trent.

- Centre and open with minimal water.

- Remove surface water with kidney.

- Then throw dry.

- Wire off dry.

It worked: easy for cylinders, not so easy for bowls.

Good points:

- The finished pots dry faster (although not much).

- The slip tray stays nearly dry, so is easier to clean . . .

Bad points:

- It needs a slightly different throwing technique, and I'm too old a dog to learn new tricks.

- There's an increased tendency to ripple.

- The extra drag means thicker pots.

- Pots are not easy to remove from the wheelhead. (I usually flood the wheelhead with water, wire off, and slide the pot on to a small bat.)

So thanks to all who mentioned this, but I'll probably stay wet.

Regards

Reply to
Jake Loddington
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I throw dry on occasion, usually when it's a tall cylinder with a narrow neck, I find that I get better results. The only downside I've found is that my normal throwing technique is to throw with a small sponge... when I throw dry I have to go back to the finger and/or knuckle, which I'm rusty at.

But, for some forms, it's the way to go.

Reply to
Richard Kaszeta

Rather than throwing *dry* I use thick slip as the throwing lubricant; a couple of dabs as I start, and then as I throw an occasional *hand wash* movement to re-distribute the slurry to where it's needed. With regard to lifting work off the wheel; unless it's an awkward shape I make a small undercut, wire off, then after wiping the 1st & 2nd fingers of both hands on the edge of the slip pot to dry them a bit I slip the 4 fingers into the undercut with the wheel still turning slowly and lift and off it comes. It's a trick I got into when I was throwing on a kick wheel and resented having to stop the wheel to lift stuff off.

Steve Bath UK

Reply to
Steve Mills

That sounds more like the technique I use. I center pretty wet, but use the slip on the wheel - just gathering it up and redistributing it over the clay. When the slip gets too thick, then I add a bit more water. As I open out and start pulling, my hands are full of slip, so instead of just adding water to the piece, I dip one hand in my water-bowl, rub it with the other hand, and voila - I have more thin slip that I can distribute over the piece to help my hands glide better.

This is especially important to me, as I am not quick at doing things, and I spend quite some time getting the final shape I want (am reading up on this now!). Thus, I need to add glide without adding too much water. I have a wonderful clay bought here in Switzerland that withstands water very nicely, even though it has tiny grog in it.

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is the one called Apollo> With regard to lifting work off the wheel; unless it's an awkward shape> I make a small undercut, wire off, then after wiping the 1st & 2nd> fingers of both hands on the edge of the slip pot to dry them a bit I> slip the 4 fingers into the undercut with the wheel still turning slowly> and lift and off it comes. It's a trick I got into when I was throwing> on a kick wheel and resented having to stop the wheel to lift stuff off. Sounds good! But how on earth do you keep the piece from buckling??? I wouldlove to see a little video of this technique. Sounds intriguing! Personally, I prefer to throw bigger pieces on a bat for now. That way, I just slice it loose, but leave it on the bat until it is more leathery and I can safely lift it without bending the walls.

For smaller things, I have a doo-hickey that I bought at my supplier:

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all the way down - it is called "topfheber aus aluminium" - it wrapsaround under the base, and the handles are far enough out that I can liftmost things much more evenly, and get them safely put on a bat or somethingfor drying. Personally, the idea of putting a ton of water on the wheel to slide the piece off doesn't appeal to me, as I do some of the drying of my waste right there in the wheel basin. If it is full of water, it takes ages to dry and reclaim the clay.

I know I am no expert, but just wanted to air my techniques that I am using at the moment. Some of them might be good, some of them personal preference only, some maybe a bad idea for some reason, and then I am counting on you "old-timers" to tell me why :-)

Marianne

Reply to
Bubbles

same style used over here steve...

i throw with thick slip water. and i use ""spock fingers" (live long & prosper) to remove pots from the wheel.

the pots never water down, excelent lubricant, and easy removal.

see ya

steve

steve graber

Reply to
Slgraber

Deb R.

Reply to
Deborah M Riel

I agree Steve, I throw with slip, never with water. Slip seals the surface and therefore does not get absorbed by the clay making it too wet and causing it to "get tired"

Reply to
annemarie

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