Black Walnut fuzz

Yes, you're doing everything wrong. Send it to me and I'll save the day.

Nice drive-by, allow me to state: YOU SUCK! You did the cutting just right, the "fuzzy" parts are where the end grain shows up. Thinks of a board spinnig on your finger... The ends would be the fuzzy parts. You may want to make sure that you are sharpening your tools a bit better and bubbing your bevel, walnut polishes up on the lathe to a gorgeous color. It's also highly toxic, wear your mask/respirator. Bill Gumbine has a great video that shows how to take a log and make abowl out of it. Well worth the money.

Dave in Fairfax

Sherfey, Black walnut has a tencency to tear out more than most other woods, at least the western black walnut that I am used to. The harder and more dense (usually) the wood is the less tear out there is. When turning flat grain, for part of the rotation you are cutting down hill, similar to sharpening a pencil with a knife. For part of the rotation you are cutting up hill, like sharpening a pencil from the point up towards the main part of the pencil. The uphill part tends to tear more. Keep your tools sharp! Roughing cuts can be more sloppy. Finish cuts, sharpen first, then take much lighter cuts. Sometimes getting the wood damp first before the finish cuts helps. Walnut seems to sell in spurts for me, some times I can't give it away, and some times I can't keep it in stock. Wear a dust mask! Hope that helps some. robo hippy

Dave > > I just started turning and I am hooked now. I have an endless supply of

"Sherfey's" wrote in message news:mPeJd.27532$EG1.26690@attbi_s53...

You're picking up the ends of the grain in those opposing spots. Take a peek at

but don't hack the inside as he's doing, and you can get good surface all the way to the button on the bottom. Look at Fig 3 and 4, and notice that there is a cutting option which will sever the fibers across their direction, regardless of their orientation, except for the two pieces of face grain. Lay your toolrest at a point below center, roll your gouge onto its edge, taking care not to bury the nose - easily done on narrow-flute bowl gouges - by rotating it slightly upward, leaning part of the bevel on the wood for support. Broader gouges are more easily handled for this cut, but they're not called "bowl gouges," so a lot of people won't use 'em. Shows a 1/2 spindle gouge hogging, shows a 3/4 forged or Continental pattern gouge finishing. Same cut works to a "T" outside. Best evidence that you're cutting the wood is that the chips don't fly reactively, but drop as they are cut, running down the gouge or falling directly. Your optimum shaving is smooth on the side cut by the edge, and twisted to show you've got a good skewed bevel support.

> > Best evidence that you're cutting the wood is that the chips don't fly > reactively, but drop as they are cut, running down the gouge or falling > directly. Your optimum shaving is smooth on the side cut by the edge, and > twisted to show you've got a good skewed bevel support. >

being turned...and we could see the tool position on the wood without the wood chips in the way. rich

Oddly, when I originally posted on my page, in regard to the turning of red oak, I did that. If yours is a real e-mail, I'll drop a couple of stills your way. Takes a long time for a full load on dialup, or I'd revise the site.

Dave

I do not think it is very becoming of this NG for people to scream "You Suck" at newbie or to even scream such profane comments at anyone - newbie or expert.

Just think if someone said that to you - how would you feel about posting a future question - huh?

Ray Sandusky Brentwood, TN

I th> I just started turning and I am hooked now. I have an endless supply of

Me: Nice drive-by, allow me to state: YOU SUCK!

Now if that doesn't constitute a major GLOAT, I don't know what does. That is why I started it out with Nice drive-by. Because his was a concealed gloat rather than an out-and-out gloat. I'm sorry if you aren't used to seeing gloats, neeners and drive-bys posted on the Usenet, or weren't aware that the appropriate response to a gloat like that is: You Suck. Frequently much more descriptively, but that is the way it was meant. The remainder of the message was my guess on what he meant by "fuzz" and how to deal with it. If I posted that I had an endless supply of Black Walnut and that all I had to do was go and pick it up, I would expect to have people inform me of my suckage; tell me that I was in grave danger and that they would help save me by removing the dangerous wood; and any of a number of other things.

If Sherfey misundertood my message, then I certainly apologise. It was meant as a major compliment. I see that he's already been informed of how badly he's treating the wood, and had an offer to save it from him. Somehow I suspect that offer was given in the same light as my response.

Dave in Fairfax

Dave

Obviously you live in an area where walnut is scarce - I guess I also have more than my fair share - so my take on your comment was that this person sucked at turning.

Ray

Bill Gumbine shows up here as ultra-dad, he has a couple of websites. The one you're looking for is

then click on the VIDEO link on the left side. This is one of the best how-to videos I've seen. He shows how to do it not brag on how good he is at doing it. Good music too. For more on the use of "you suck, take a look at his Google search, look out for the word wrap, you may have to do some cut and paste. I thinkk that you'll see that it wasn't quite what Ray thought I meant. As for stature, I think you've missed you medication, I'm a nobody. Black walnut, however is a true joy to turn, serious about the mask though. Stuff'll kill you. Dave in Fairfax

We've got a fair amount of it here in VA, it just makes me cry when I see people pile it up and burn it. It's probably my favorite wood for turning. Please take a look at the link I sent Scottin the next message down. I thinkk that you'll see that it's said in anything but an unfriendly manner. I might think nasty things about someone, but unless they attack me, or someone I like, first, I almost never get nasty with them.

Sorry you took it wrong, Dave in Fairfax

I got a nice rash from turning some walnut. Cost a pretty penny for the salve I had to put on it.

I have to wear a long sleeve shirt and hat when turing walnut. Ricky

That can happen with any wood, but it seems to happen more with the tropicals and the pretty locals. Somebody's got a sick sense of humor.

Dave in Fairfax

I think i got the idea from a picture in a book called "Turning small boxes"...anyway. it still isn't clear to me why the gouge isn't pushed left and then down...or maybe it is, but can't go very far. i intend on trying this method the next time i do a bowl, but a couple of pictures wouldn't hurt me whereas improper tool use might :) so send them to my email address and we won't have to bother the rest of the group. thanks, rich snipped-for-privacy@verizon.net

Dave

Thanks for not getting angry with me in return - hey great website you provided - thaks

Ray

PLeasure to help. I hope that all the newer turners take a looka t the website and grab a copy of the video, standard disclaimers, not paid etc, just pleased customer, as well as join their local and national chapters of AAW, both are excellent resources and fun. Hard to beat the combination.

There's no point in getting mad about it. It was an obvious misunderstanding, you weren't attcking me for some ulterior motive, you were just standing up for a guy who you thought was being picked on unfairly. That's nothing to get mad about, you did the right thing, I wish everybody would do what they think is right rather than just what's easy or fun. I congratulate you.

Dave in Fairfax

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Dave, I think the main culprits are the darker hardwoods like walnut, mesquite, rosewoods, ebony, etc.. You seldom hear much about allergic reactions from maple, birch, pine, fir, etc. Like you say, if it's pretty, you'd better take precautions.

Ken Moon Webberville, TX

I agree entirely. I personally enjoy turning maples and conifers, as well as sycamore, holly and walnut, and others of course. Many peoplle seem to find the softwoods and many maples to be boring, which is why I didn't lump themn in with the pretty ones. When I first started turning, I hooked up with some people who have immense amounts of curly maple and walnut. I "grew up" turning flamed walnut, and curly maple without realizing that they were anything special. Certainy made me enjoy turning. %-) When you turn gorgeous wood, it makes it much easier to make pretty things, even with lousey technique. They gave me great prices since a lot of what I got was the pieces they couldn't use for their projects. The best part was that they'd explain the woods to me and didn't get annoyed with my idiot questions.

Dave in Fairfax