attaching panels to existing windows

Your in Turkey? Vinyl window? Thermal insulated window or single pane? Clear Silicon is NEVER the way to go, it yellows badly over time and is very unsightly, and not much of an adhesive, if that is what you want it to do. Need more information to answer your questions, but in general, you mount your leaded unit the same way the existing window is mounted, if it is a single pane panel, good use a "Y " zinc on the edge and build the panel same size as existing window, thin edge of the "Y" will fit in the place of the DS glass of window frame. IF it is a Thermal insulated glass panel, then more thought needs to happen, and your installation methods will be different, depending on if you install inside the thermal or outside.

I think I've heard of people building stained-glass panels that are then 'built into' conventional double-glazed units - so you end up with a sandwich of 'clear float glass / stained glass / clear float glass'.

Somebody was asking me about making some of those the other day - I guess you'd need to be very sure that you'd got the lead or solder in the stained glass prefectly clean - 'cos if it went grubby once it was in the 'sandwich' then there's nothing you could do about it....

Maybe it's different by countries / climates. Over here in the UK, double-glazing is very common - and there are lots of manufacturers.. Don't know about Turkey...

Did some little panels that fitted inside a wooden frame - very easy - just edged the whole lot in brass 'u' section, and then soldered copper wire loops to the brass. Tiny screws through the loops into the wooden window-frame - job done .

Regards Adrian Suffolk UK

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Hi Adrian We do have double-glazed windows in Turkey...but I really don't like them personally in my stone village house...they just look wrong here...but not everyone has an old restored stone house..!!! so i'm going to check into this possibility of sandwiching the panel between two clear panes of glass.

i was reading that a finished panel should be soaked in a bath of water and detergent for at least 24 hours to remove any residue of flux...

years ago the way i'd clean my glass panels was with lemon oil...it seemed to 'neutralize' the flux and patina...to my knowledge, it never developed a white powder.

we don't have lemon oil here...so i'll have to resort to the bath method...

thanks for the tips...i know about the wooden frames...my carpenter friend will make them for me if needed. and i'm going to hunt around for some brass U channel. i haven't seen them listed in my supplier's catalogue ...

take care, arlene

If you don't need the double-glazing for thermal reasons then I don't see that there's any reason why you could not just mount your stained-glass panel inside the fixed glass. I've seen little perspex clips that can be fixed to the window-frame to secure the stained glass, they're known as 'f-clips' I think ....

That sounds like a plan...

I find that dishwashing liquid and a good scrub with fine wire wool seems to do the trick...

The stuff I use is about 4mm square. (Tempsford do it). Just don't solder the seams right to the edge - then add flux to the brass channel after wire-wooling it, and solder the channel to the seams. Now just run a bead along the brass and you're done. I suppose that if you really wanted to you could add some kind of adhesive (?epoxy) inside the channel, but I've not found it necessary.

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Good old soap and water will clean the panels just fine. Rinse thoroughly. No need to soak the darn thing over night! Just rinse well, dry and then let air dry for an hour or so. As for putting on the brass...no need if the panel is going to go into a wooden frame where it will have moulding to hold the glass in the frame.

Andy

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